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You can't use a VPN to get around casino restrictions. It may work for you to play, but when you go to cash out or anything they're going to reject your request due to using a VPN showing you're in a different region.

Despite the passport, there are many problems with that plan and I highly recommend that you do not do it.

First up the vast majority of casinos don't allow play over VPN, so you'd be breaking their T&Cs just by doing so. This gives them a reason not to pay you that they can use whenever they feel like. VPNs are easy to spot as they route your connection through non residential server farms or data centres (think Amazon or similar). So you would really need to route your connection through a residential ISP for it to be effective.

Even if you could sort that issue out, to the best of my knowledge the UK Gambling Commission doesn't allow any of their licensed casinos to transact in or play with BTC. So if you insist on BTC that means you have to play at an unregulated site that is willing to accept UK players even though they aren't licensed.

This cuts your options down to a bunch of casinos where a high proportion are rogues and rip-off joints. They will happily take your money while you're depositing (and losing) but the second you try to withdraw there is a very real risk that they check your account and spot the VPN usage and use that as an excuse not to pay you (as mentioned above it is likely against their T&Cs).

Then if you're playing at an unlicensed and unregulated casino you have no legal recourse to make them pay you. And because you originally deposited using BTC you can't even file a chargeback to recover your deposits like you could with a credit card.

Let's say you scrap the BTC idea and use a debit card or something and play at a properly licensed casino as a UK player. UKGC licensed casinos are well known to conduct SOW (source of wealth) checks on players who deposit regularly. That is where you have to supply them with documentation showing your earning capacity is sufficient to cover your deposits. Now think what happens when they see that all your banking and/or payslip info is coming from South African companies. Or they ask for your phone number to call you on to do a verbal verification.

Look, what you want to do is certainly not impossible but it is a lot harder than just signing up to a VPN online and going for it. It is very risky with little upside.

I use NordVPN, reliable and quick service, you may choose which country you want to appear being in, comes in handy when there are restrictions to where you are allowed to be from to enter.

I use vpn works great wish i knew about it long time ago. I play on 3 different sites that don't ask for documentation just verify ur email and phone. I cashed out thousands. you just have to be smart ask the support if they require documents upon withdrawal.

Roulette-Thief wrote:

Thanks for everyone's feedback. It seems I'm going to battle to find a trusted online casino which matches my requirements but the best thing about being part of this community is there are many recommendations I just have to filter through them all.

hey I know what you talking about I am also South African with an Additional Greek passport and would often get in to contact with my favorite casino and would tell them I am traveling to Greece can they please unlock Microgaming slots for me while in the region and they were more than happy to accommodate me , also there a few crypto casinos that encourage vpn and others like bc game that just turn a blind eye betfury is another one

Smoky818 wrote:

I use vpn works great wish i knew about it long time ago. I play on 3 different sites that don't ask for documentation just verify ur email and phone. I cashed out thousands. you just have to be smart ask the support if they require documents upon withdrawal.

So what if they decide they change your mind after you win big? What will you do then? They don't require as long as they're losing... what's to stop them when you take them for a big win and they're not winning anymore?

I wouldn't recommend using a VPN as it is against most Terms and conditions of a lot of casinos.

Many of YouTubers suggest NordVPN as they sponsor them, so might be worth trying it out 😉

then id just accept it cuz i knew what i was doing violates the terms. i also don't think i will ever hit it big. i hit 3k on vpn and cashed out. only bitcoin sites i use it on

I recommend Opera browser, you can activate the VPN either directly on the start page in private mode or by selecting Settings in the Opera menu.

Just wanted to add my 2 cents to this.

The VPN only, or even if you buy expensive residential proxy, or 4G proxy (the most reliable ones and non-detectable) will not be enough to fool a casino and see where are you coming from, or better said, where are you not coming from - if that's in their interest.

Your browser leaks many other data, such us time on your PC or phone (timezone), language used, operating system, browser's user agent, plugins installed, cookies... Basically, it's easy to spot if something's not right if you don't take care of everything and give them a reason to ban you or reject your withdrawal and keep your money.

Let's say you use VPN and IP location from Germany. Still, you're using the same browser you usually do. And you are from India that isn't accepted by that specific casino. The website gets info on your IP (1st thing), then device (2nd), then they check your browser and its cookies, even what sites you are using autofill to login. Normally, when you browse news site in India, you don't need VPN, or when you login to email or any other account at indian domain. You save passwords, cookies are placed on your device. Casinos either check this manually when you wanna withdraw funds and or automatically when you register, deposit, etc and voila, your account is good as dead.

They can even see your screen resolution. Anyway, bad IP (VPN), cookies and wrong timezone are the most common factors for all accounts that get in trouble.

However, if there's a will, there's a way, a lot of things can be done online. Check the screenshot:

In Browser 1 is my real info,
In Browser 2 is the info I actually want casino site to get from me. You can see I changed browser's string to show I'm using "Adnanux" which doesn't exist, (Linux should go there), and that I'm being considered as Android user coming from mobile (while I'm as you can see on PC), from Greece etc...

With right tools,, a lil bit of knowledge and caution, this can be successful operation 🙂 but still, breaking the laws is not something I'd recommend. Unless casino is broke it and you have no choice than use something like this as self-defence 🙂

In case some casino held your funds, and you wanna try to get back at least something, since you know, in most cases you win in first couple of sessions as new player, feel free to ask me for advice, here or in PM, whatever suits you.

adnanc wrote:

Let's say you use VPN and IP location from Germany. Still, you're using the same browser you usually do. And you are from India that isn't accepted by that specific casino. The website gets info on your IP (1st thing), then device (2nd), then they check your browser and its cookies, even what sites you are using autofill to login. Normally, when you browse news site in India, you don't need VPN, or when you login to email or any other account at indian domain. You save passwords, cookies are placed on your device. Casinos either check this manually when you wanna withdraw funds and or automatically when you register, deposit, etc and voila, your account is good as dead.

There is a lot of misinformation out there about cookies that has lead to stupid stuff like that EU directive that has many websites popping up annoying messages stating that they use cookies. Anyway the quoted scenario a good example because it is actually wrong due to what web browsers call the same-origin policy.

When you visit this site, for example, there is a cookie placed on your computer. It saves your preference for currency and your country. If you are logged in it saves your user id so you don't have to keep logging in every time you click through to a new page here. The vital thing to note is that the cookie is assigned to the domain name casinolistings.com only. Because of this the cookie cannot be read by any other website you visit unless your web browser is broken or defective. Stated another way: if you visit another website there is absolutely no way for them to read your cookies see if you visited our site. The same principle applies across all websites.

There are a lot of ways casinos can detect you faking your location, even if they cannot detect use of a VPN, but reading cookies set by other websites is not one of them.

CL-Ed wrote:

There is a lot of misinformation out there about cookies that has lead to stupid stuff like that EU directive that has many websites popping up annoying messages stating that they use cookies. Anyway the quoted scenario a good example because it is actually wrong due to what web browsers call the same-origin policy.

When you visit this site, for example, there is a cookie placed on your computer. It saves your preference for currency and your country. If you are logged in it saves your user id so you don't have to keep logging in every time you click through to a new page here. The vital thing to note is that the cookie is assigned to the domain name casinolistings.com only. Because of this the cookie cannot be read by any other website you visit unless your web browser is broken or defective. Stated another way: if you visit another website there is absolutely no way for them to read your cookies see if you visited our site. The same principle applies across all websites.

There are a lot of ways casinos can detect you faking your location, even if they cannot detect use of a VPN, but reading cookies set by other websites is not one of them.

Dunno Ed, if they can place a file on my PC, they can open it too 🙂

Anyway, the cookies are as you said something you shouldn't be concerned about unless you're using multi accounts at a casino and a same browser and not even bother to change browser profile. Then you're screwed.

Another scenario: Facebook pixel, now Meta pixel, will probably screw up your plans assuming the casino advertises there. Same can be said for Adwords and any other ad network offering retargeting.(again assuming the casino used the paid ads). Correct me if I'm wrong.

The thing is, the browser No2 from screenshot is part of a software I used to sell (was co-owner).

I'm not selling anything now, I've left that project and the partners stopped the service completely couple of months ago, so don't get me wrong.

That specific browser is made for Instagram, it's a small part of the softwawre, and it simulates mobile browser, even the screen resolution is set as per mobile phone model that you assigned for that browser. OS, SN, Device ID, Unique ID, Adv Id (screenshot)... all covered. Really detailed and hard to detect. Of course, proxy support for each browser is there.

The tool itself It's coded in a way to fool the largest social network today. Now you might think that social networks don't care about multi accounting, but it was a lucrative blackhat business for fake engagement sellers, followers sellers, so they invested a lot more than casinos in order to make their system detect suspicious accounts automatically.

Even though casinos work with money, they are not so interested in stopping multi accs until you're at withdrawal already. But with small amounts, this would fool them in 99% of cases, if done by me. However, I don't have any intention doing that. I like playing regularly. This would be like a full time work not gamble 🙂

Anyway, it might be good idea to remove this thread Ed? I don't really want to motivate anyone making a fraud...
Sorry.

Yeah we are getting into splitting hairs territory here, there are loads of ways for sites to track people including browser fingerprinting and using third party tacking tools that people voluntarily put on their websites (eg Google Analytics). But reading a list of all the cookies on the user's machine, or reading a cookie from any other website than the one you are visiting is impossible.

Facebook is a good case in point. They do not read your cookies from other sites, in fact they don't have to because they convinced webmasters to do the tracking for them. Encouraging websites to put a Like button on their own pages is one of the greatest cons they ever pulled. They did this precisely because the same-origin policy prevents them doing what you described.

Every time your browser loads a Facebook like button, it requests the button from Facebook's servers and passes along the URL of the page the button was found on. Facebook reads only its own cookie to know what your account ID is and due to the referring site URL being passed on... voila... they know you have visited that particular site and they assume you are interested in casinos, cars, cooking, football, or midget porn, whatever. Facebook doesn't read the cookies from the site you are visiting because as I said that is impossible. So Like buttons are actually a tracking mechanism cleverly disguised as a popularity contest that allows Facebook to collect data about its users that they then sell to advertisers or allow them to use for targeting.

Nord is possibly the worst choice of VPN, in my opinion. It's heavily marketed to a primarily US-based audience and by extension, I suspect it's almost certainly compromised.

NordVPN had a security issue and they were breached a few years ago. They waited months to tell people and tried to play it down. I was using them at the time but switched elsewhere because of it.