Surviving An Active Shooter

Sad that we have to even worry about things like those protrayed on the video. I know I felt so bad when we had to practice similar drills in the schools now. Used to only have to worry about fire and tornado drills, and now we have to have these types of drills, too. That always makes me sad, because school is supposed to be another place, along with home, where our children can feel completely safe from all harm, but that is not the case anymore. 😢

That is just so sad. You guys actually practice that sort of thing in school?🤷!? I know Americans have a different more "gun-embracing" culture, but geez I am dumbfounded after seeing and reading that.

CL-Ed wrote:

That is just so sad. You guys actually practice that sort of thing in school?🤷!? I know Americans have a different more "gun-embracing" culture, but geez I am dumbfounded after seeing and reading that.

Yes, CL-Ed! This started after all the school shootings. And it IS sad. I would get chills every time I had to practice with the students. We have to go into the nearest room, lock the door, turn out all the lights and keep the children away from any windows and/or windows that are in the doors. Someone will even come along and jiggle the door knob like it is a real thing, and that would just send chills down my spine (the administration is also checking that we did lock the door and practice the drill correctly). They have a name for it, but I forget what it is called. I was as shocked as you are the first time I was informed we had to practice that type of drill. 😢

Security is so strict in some schools that children have to go through metal detectors, although I have not worked in such a setting....yet. I know in the bigger cities they definitely have those.

There has already been a school shooting this school year. The young man is in critical condition last I heard.

It all truly breaks my heart.

The video Ubetcha posted reminds me of those videos they make people in the work place watch. That is so sad, too. 😢

CL-Ed wrote:

That is just so sad. You guys actually practice that sort of thing in school?🤷!? I know Americans have a different more "gun-embracing" culture, but geez I am dumbfounded after seeing and reading that.

It is just absolutely crazy isn't it CL-Ed? No wonder kids are afraid to go to school here. A lot of people home school their kids now. We are taught to be afraid, very afraid, of everything here. Sad, very sad.

I can remember when they use to have the terror alerts splashed all over the news. There were colors displayed as to the level of the threat. Do you have anything like this in Australia CL-Ed? (terror alerts)

Yes, whatever happened to those green/yellow/red terror alerts (came about after 911)? You don't hear about those anymore.

I have actually kept my boys home from high school a couple of different times when rumors were flying about shootings and notes were found, etc. I was better to be safe than sorry, so I just let them stay home on those days. I wish I had been in a position to home school, because I definitely would have done that, especially if therei had been more online choices for my guys back then. Online schooling works well with a lot of parental supervision and involvement. I honestly believe i would have done that if I would have had the choice back then.

There was also an alert about chemical weapons or nuclear attack. Do you remember people freaking out and trying to buy plastic for their windows? Some people on another site were losing it big time. I decided to not panic. I did not cover my windows.

Yes, I do remember that. People were buying out duct tape, too, if I recall. None of it would have made a difference, anyway.

We lived by a nuclear plant, and we would get a calendar each year with an emergency plan on it. It would tell us to meet our children at the State Fair Grounds if anything happened during the school day. That always gave me an uneasy feeling for sure! 😢

My son loves watching that Doomsday Preppers show. It is amazing how some have completely given their lives to preparing for the end time, if it be economic collapse or solar flare or whatever. The show is very interesting, then at the end an expert will tell the people their strengths and weaknesses to their plans. Have you seen it? People also have "go packs" ready in their homes and cars in case of the worst case scenario.

I can't afford the time or money for any of this, so if the end comes, I just figure I am screwed. lol

I actually have some Doomsday prepper stuff in my house, but it is more related to the fact that I live in the same town as the Dow Chemical main plant.

I make sure that I have stuff in case of a leak (it does happen, and I have been stuck inside a plant when it happens). I agree it is nuts that we have to practice this stuff, but sadly it is relevant here.

I don't have the money to buy a bunker, but I think it's great to be prepared for emergencies. I have a crank radio, and a crank lantern. They also run on batteries. I have a stash of batteries. I did have a back up of canned food, but that is running low. I have plenty of candles. We have extra propane tanks, and two propane heaters.

A few years ago our heat was off for a day or two. Also our electricity was off for several days one summer not too long ago. We lost everything that needed to be refrigerated.

We also have extra flashlights, and matches. It never hurts to be prepared.

LuckyMe wrote:

I don't have the money to buy a bunker, but I think it's great to be prepared for emergencies. I have a crank radio, and a crank lantern. They also run on batteries. I have a stash of batteries. I did have a back up of canned food, but that is running low. I have plenty of candles. We have extra propane tanks, and two propane heaters.

A few years ago our heat was off for a day or two. Also our electricity was off for several days one summer not too long ago. We lost everything that needed to be refrigerated.

We also have extra flashlights, and matches. It never hurts to be prepared.

I would like to get one of those flashlight weather radio combos and some water filteration tablets. Those things I can afford.

We had an outage a few months back, and I could not even find a match! lol I lit my light ONE time and it died right then and there. I couldn't even light candles to read by. That woke me up a bit, and now i have a shoebox filled with candles and matches, and I would like to add the weather radio/flashlight and water tabs to that. Other than that, I can't do much or even stock up to much, because of limited space where I live.

The DoomsDay Prepper shows ARE really cool. Here is a link to some episodes and clips:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=doomsday+preppers&oq=doomsda...

Ubetcha wrote:

Me, I'm not prepared in a materialistic manner.. I'll just go with the wind to wherever it will take me to. 😂 Hopefully I will evolve in another time for the better.. 😉 more 😍 and peace to all.. !!

I am in the process of downsizing now. I've never been materialistic. It's all just stuff anyway. Wishing you all the best Ubetcha.

I started a thread here a LONG time ago about what would we do in a zombie apocalypse, lol, and I think my end result is that I figured I would just be screwed. lol

I would like to have more food and water on hand, but I don't. We let that dwindle down when we were thinking about moving. I am using the last of the laundry detergent that I got about 4-5 years ago. I got it while on sale with coupons, or buy one get one free. It really saved us a lot of money over the years. I still have dishwasher stuff to last me another year. I stock up on stuff when it's cheap.

Now I'm in the mood of having a clean house with no clutter. Extra stuff is going out the door. Tired of looking for stuff and not being able to find it, or moving stuff that has sat in a box for 10 years.

I think a lot of people will be screwed if the shtf. There are always people who are willing to share though, just can't count on that in a time of emergency.

Doomsday Preppers say to gather things that you can barter. I heard somewhere the "three Bs." Bullets, beer, and beans. lol It does make sense to barter, though, because money will not matter if the s does htf. lol

I remember an old song about the end of the world, and specifically one line from the song that said, "a piece of bread will buy a bag of gold." So food will be more valuable than money....or all this gold that people are hoarding/buying.

You are right Hope, money will have no value. I think many people have moved way out by themselves so they won't have to deal with starving people trying to steal what food they have. I am very happy to be away from the big city. I would love to have lots of canned food on hand, but that is not the case.

A good thing to have in case of an emergency is antibiotics. The downfall of this is that you usually need a prescription to obtain a bottle...

However, if you have a pet store in your area, you can actually get your hands on some. Most pet stores sell fish some kind of product like Fish Mox, which is just plain ol' Amoxicillin! It is crazy to think this, but it is true. In a pinch this would be good, and its not too expensive either!

barbadosslim93 wrote:

A good thing to have in case of an emergency is antibiotics. The downfall of this is that you usually need a prescription to obtain a bottle...

However, if you have a pet store in your area, you can actually get your hands on some. Most pet stores sell fish some kind of product like Fish Mox, which is just plain ol' Amoxicillin! It is crazy to think this, but it is true. In a pinch this would be good, and its not too expensive either!

Wow! Well I again learned something new today. I have never heard of that before.

I had a coworker who would obtain antibiotics from someone who traveled to Mexico often, because she had no insurance. And can't you get almost any med online these days even without a prescription? I agree this would be a good thing to have on hand, although if a virus comes along all the antibiotics in the world won't help. Reminds me that we should all also have just a basic first aid kit on hand.

I guess for me it just comes down to common sense and be as prepared for ANY type of emergency as I can possibly be with what resources I have. Which,again, means I will probably be screwed, but at least I tried. lol

barbadosslim93 wrote:

A good thing to have in case of an emergency is antibiotics. The downfall of this is that you usually need a prescription to obtain a bottle...

However, if you have a pet store in your area, you can actually get your hands on some. Most pet stores sell fish some kind of product like Fish Mox, which is just plain ol' Amoxicillin! It is crazy to think this, but it is true. In a pinch this would be good, and its not too expensive either!

I have Oregenol on hand, and DE. I just started the diamotaceous earth. Testimonials seem to say it cures a lot of health problems.

Funny time on this one. I was watching tv last night and a current affairs show had a story about this exact thing and they referred to the video. They also attended a workshop where American school teachers were being trained in what to do in a shooting situation. It is difficult for me to understand how American society has reached this point. It is just crazy. They returned to the studio after the story and the look on the presenter's face was pure dumbfoundedness (if that is a word!).

It all kind of reminds me of those old duck and cover drills from the 50s where they taught kids to hide under their desk if they saw a nuclear missile strike.

LuckyMe wrote:

It is just absolutely crazy isn't it CL-Ed? No wonder kids are afraid to go to school here. A lot of people home school their kids now. We are taught to be afraid, very afraid, of everything here. Sad, very sad.

I can remember when they use to have the terror alerts splashed all over the news. There were colors displayed as to the level of the threat. Do you have anything like this in Australia CL-Ed? (terror alerts)

No terror alerts that I am aware of. But we have our share of stupid rules in response to perceived "terrorism". In the news the last couple of days they have been talking about a plan to monitor the internet here so all email, web surfing etc is recorded and accessible to the government. Supposedly to combat terrorism. It is absolutely ludicrous and unnecessary.

You're probably more likely to be squashed by a falling piano on your way to work than become a victim of terrorism. There is no point in worrying about it otherwise you'll end up a nervous wreck who never leaves the house. You're right that people are being conditioned with fear. Terrorists are the new "Commies".

Agree completely Ed. There is being prepared and there is being paranoid. There is no point in living life as paranoid; you would just be miserable.

Terrorism is overblown as a threat these days.

Yes, I believe that the media and the politicians try to instill fear in the American people and this could be said of other countries, too.

I was so shocked the first time I had to train my students for such a drill. I was saddened and disturbed for a long time. I still remember the creepy feeling of crouching in the dark, away from the doors and windows as administration wiggled the door knobs. And if it disturbed me to that degree, what were my students feeling?

My brothers remember those nuclear drills, and my mom even had her cellar well stocked. Yes, history does repeat itself, except different time, new players.

On the other hand, I cannot even imagine living in a violence-prone country where there is REAL danger of snipers and bombs going off at the market, at the mosques and where children are present. That would be REAL terror, and truly feel for those families and children.

hope777 wrote:

On the other hand, I cannot even imagine living in a violence-prone country where there is REAL danger of snipers and bombs going off at the market, at the mosques and where children are present. That would be REAL terror, and truly feel for those families and children.

I would crap my pants the first time I heard a bomb go off. I don't even like the wind blowing hard.