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Just in case anyone beside here me fancies this sport.

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15 July 2019 - 5:12am
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Oh dear... how about this? According to an obscure rule England should only have been given 5 runs instead of 6 for the overthrows where the ball deflected off the bat and went to the boundary.

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15 July 2019 - 10:00am
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That game suppose to be the greatest thriller I've ever seen in my lifetime not just in cricket but any sport really, and certainly the most exiting cricket game I've watched.

What can I say..I really feel sorry for NZ...it should be the toughest way to loose a match(and a WC final!) without technically even being behind in the score...that's beyond tough.

That Stokes moment was an amazing piece of fortune, yeah that won't happen again even in a 1000 tries, you can predict or prevent it, it's just the way the fortune defines the winner sometimes.

But for me the really defying moment was that Boult mistake in the perpetual over..it certainly looked like England will loose the game by the time needing 22 from 9 balls with Stokes the last hope of the Engllish..that moment turned the game around and made English believe I'm sure, check at 5:05 in case you've missed it.

It's been relatively easy catch by the modern standards and in fact Boult has made it but just wasn't aware where the boundary is and stepped over...he made a lot tougher catch v WI to win the game for NZ if you remember that, so the NZ-ers literally have it in their hands..it was Stokes and that would of been the end for England preventing all what happened next I think.

I agree with you they should of play another Super over cause it's tough to loose a game when the score is technically a draw.

If the one team has more boundaries but the other got more wickets..let's say the super over is a fair way to decide the winner and (quite exiting one too) but yeah they should play another one.

With probably 15-20 overs to go the commentators had a good laugh about the super over when they were remind by the producer to mention that...I wasn't aware what it is then either...who could of write such script...no one really, that's why we love it, isn't it.

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16 July 2019 - 7:39am
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Yeah I saw the catch that turned into a six. It was an incredible finish and I am so annoyed I didn't stay up to watch it live. When you consider that non-catch, the deflected four, the incorrect awarding of the extra run, then losing on boundaries, NZ have to be the unluckiest loser of a major sporting event I've ever seen.

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16 July 2019 - 12:38pm
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What can I say Ed..you've missed the game of the century 😛 but it could always be worst...if NZ have won that for example..you'd then regret even more I guess 😉

Yeah I think they are, sometimes(always?) is easier to swallow a hammering defeat when you've been really performed poorly than this.

I can't think of more sadistic way of loosing a game than that either, like you said maybe the unluckiest defeat ever.

But saying that I must agree with Shane Warn who said England deserved the title for what they've shown throughout the tournament and especially in their last last games when they had to win every single one to qualify for the semis and it's been the ultimate pressure over them so they've been the most balanced side in the tournament but in the final NZ have been the slightly better side!

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31 July 2019 - 5:55am
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Have you seen this guy? He is Pavel Florin, a Romanian playing in the European cricket league. Obviously he's not very good and someone thinks it is funny to make fun of him and now he has made the news here today.

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31 July 2019 - 5:38pm
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Ha-ha...no Ed, this is the first time I've heard of the guy...it should be an admirable thing to be so enthusiastic about cricket in a country where it's popularity is ...well literally not existing really.

But the most worrying thing for me is not that his English is almost worst than mine, not even the fact that's the most unbelievable trajectory of spin balling I've had ever seen but the fact he knows his balling is ugly and ineffective ...and he still doesn't care! 😂

The guy's ignorance should be his best attribute as a player..or as a person generally...it's not easy to be so thick-skinned anyway.

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It was funny in hindsight seeing him described as "right arm pace" by the TV graphics when he came in to bowl. But you're very generous describing his bowling as spin, almost as much as the commentator saying it was well flighted. I'd call them nude balls... because they have nothing on them. But even so it looked like the batsmen didn't know what to do with them as they were so unusual. He even drew an edge on one ball, maybe he would have had a wicket if he had a slip in place.

I love his enthusiasm and love for the game, and that he doesn't care what anyone thinks. He has gained a bit of support online from some famous players like Shane Warne and Darren Lehmann after being ridiculed. Hopefully in the future he can get a net session with someone like that to learn a few tips. Maybe they should invite him over to England for a couple of days to watch the Ashes. It starts tonight!

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But you're very generous describing his bowling as spin, almost as much as the commentator saying it was well flighted. I'd call them nude balls... because they have nothing on them.

Yeah....you're probably right there Ed.

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But even so it looked like the batsmen didn't know what to do with them as they were so unusual

Ha-ha...That was what I was thinking as well.

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Damn...forgot to check that despite I've reminded my self. :\

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Yeah it was a big first day in the Ashes. I watched the first session and after Australia had a horrible start they looked to be back on track with Smith and Head batting well. After lunch there was another almighty collapse and if it wasn't for Smith (he scored 144) and the number 10 and 11 batsmen (Siddle and Lyon) Australia would have been out of the game already. They got 284 in the end which is pretty ordinary but it could have been so much worse.

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Thanks for the update mate...I didn't even checked the score to be honest so I've missed it completely so far, probably from tomorrow (Saturday) I'd start following it really closely..in another year I would of been really exited for the Ashes but after the phenomenal WC final which was the culmination of the Cricket year (for me) is kind of understandable to be a bit indifferent about it...I'm sure that would change once I've take a look at it.

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5 August 2019 - 5:49am
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Steve Smith is a genius with the bat in hand. He's just hit another 142 in the second innings. Australia declared with a lead of 398 and now England most likely will look to hold on and bat out the final day for a draw. Australia must be heavy favourites now. The pitch is starting to spin a lot and Lyon on a fifth day pitch will be hard to deal with. It has been a big turnaround since Australia were about 8/120 on the first day.

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... Australia were about 8/120 on the first day.

Yeah that was one of the two key moments in the test for me and the fact England weren't able to score big in the first innings to what looked a good possibility to extend their advantage well over that 90runs but their middle batting order doesn't performed really.

Yeah, Smith does it brilliantly and you got it right about the fifth day Ed.

It's beyond my understanding why Archer who have done excellent at the WC was not in the squad but instead the injured Anderson who couldn't even ball.

I have my doubts on one or two others in the English line up and the batting order but that's up to them to address, don't think Root's captaincy is that good either...compared to that of Morgan or Steve Smith's (yeah I know technically he's not the skipper) but I think he is in fact.

I've never fancied that for me negative approach of England in the fifth day, when you're in survival mode all the pressure is on you, and that giving the bowlers all the confidence in the world, go out there score 300 fail a bit short but entertain the crowd..in the end it's not just the result that matters but the way you've lost a game is also important.

Steve Smith for me just has the biggest balls if you ask me cause I could argue there's at least a couple of better batsmen in the English side than him(or at least at his level)...but the character is what making the difference in the end...in any sport not just cricket.

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It was a comfortable victory in the end. I get what you're saying about England having a go at getting the runs but I think maybe you underestimate how hard it is to bat on a fifth day test match pitch. It is dry and crusty with scuffed footmarks from the bowlers from the other four days. This brings the spinners into play as the ball spins a lot more and the bounce is inconsistent. So it makes it very hard to play attacking shots. That showed with Lyon getting 6 wickets in the second innings.

In fact if you look here at the record fourth innings run chases in test matches, there have only ever been four totals higher than the 398 that Australia set England to win that were successfully achieved. There have been a few more than that but they only lead to losses or draws. So it was almost mission impossible for England.

You see the number 1 score on that list that is way ahead of the others - England 654/5 drawing while chasing 696 to win against South Africa. There is a good story behind that. It was a famous "timeless test match" where they played for 10 days before giving up with England almost certain to win. The English team had to leave to catch a boat back home to England. Here's a good description of the match: When 10 days were not enough

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Yeah I get your point about the tough batting conditions on the field especially in the last day but isn't that the whole point Ed?

I mean if you leave the bowlers to just pressure you they'd have all the confidence in the world to even increase the pressure, and in fact the pitch conditions are what make it tough to survive batting trough whole of the day i think.

I'm not saying to go out there and play a T20 style but certainly the England batsmen could of be more free minded knowing the game would of be almost certainly lost anyway, as you point that as well.

Most of the English batsmen have been dismissed playing a defensive shots anyway, but Roy for example played ultra defensively and then suddenly tried a big six hit which ended catastrophic..and it usually that's not the right approach for me, there's have to be some balance but it's also should be premeditated mind set in the dressing room and for me the English players looked like they're on different pages and confused what exactly their approach should be.

Saying all that I still think the Aussies would of won the game anyway but for me England would of easily overcome that pity 140 whatever scoreline being in the right frame of mind and playing more agressively, free your arms, fancy yourself and entertain the crowd...at least loose in style 😉

This might be an amateurish comparison (or example) but for me it's a bit like parking the bus in football when you need just a draw and you have a good attacking squad..so you don't use your side strong qualities, defending all the time which means the pressure would be all on your defense and gk all the time and if you're lucky enough you could take the result you're need in the end but more often than not that tactic would fail.

Steve Smith is the perfect example for me he might be a great player but in fact he's best attribute for me is his leaders character which usually separates the good players from the the really great ones and that lack in this England side and Root's captaincy for me.

In the end being 90 runs ahead after the first innings and opponents declared after the second is an unforgivable way of loosing a match and it's quite a failure I think.

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You see the number 1 score on that list that is way ahead of the others - England 654/5 drawing while chasing 696 to win against South Africa. There is a good story behind that. It was a famous "timeless test match" where they played for 10 days before giving up with England almost certain to win. The English team had to leave to catch a boat back home to England. Here's a good description of the match: When 10 days were not enough

Yeah great story Ed, but a different era really I guess the players back then weren't so busy in the country cricket as these days, playing a timeless tests , and in the end probably a fair result cause would it be too harsh on any side to loose that epic match really.

But for me this story also proves everything is possible if you have the right mentality and enough courage and belief, there's not an impossible chase I guess.

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A premeditated draw in the second test I guess, they've had lost like how much..day and a half of play?...so any other result than a draw looked unrealistic from the very start I guess.

But the big news is the absence of Steve Smith from the third test which probably will encourage the English.
I still question most of the Root's decisions as a captain...think he overloaded his main!? bowler Archer in his first test! (the guy was not even selected for the first test, which alone is ridiculous) and not using enough the rest of the bowler's core.

The batting order also looks a mess with Roy struggling as an opener and I think he should be moved to 4th or 5th and instead Denly(who's a specialist opener) moved on top of the order.

But anyway let's see if Root will make at least some of the needed changes cause if they don't manage to beat Australia without Steve Smith in 3rd..England will loose the Ashes and quite rightly so.

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Smith is going to be a big loss for Australia obviously. I am glad they left him out though. He got hit in a spot very similar to where Phil Hughes was hit and he died from it.

Australia's batting looks dodgy to me. There is very little consistency apart from guys like Warner who have been consistently bad. They will need to lift their game as England's bowling looked a lot better in the second test.

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Australia's batting looks dodgy to me. There is very little consistency apart from guys like Warner who have been consistently bad.

Ha-ha..yeah I agree Ed, maybe Warner should step in and lead the team in batting especially now when Smith is unavailable.

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Smith is going to be a big loss for Australia obviously. I am glad they left him out though. He got hit in a spot very similar to where Phil Hughes was hit and he died from it.

I've had obviously never played cricket or even never handled a cricket ball before so what it is whit that ball?
I mean it doesn't look to be that heavy in weight but maybe because it's very hard and stiff and heard of few stories of an injured batsmen, broken fingers and so on but didn't know it could cause so much damage even through the helmet.

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Well Warner and Laba... whatever did ok, pity about the rest of the team. As I suspected the Aussie batting is pretty dismal.

Man a cricket ball is really hard. It is leather stitched over a core of cork I think. Yep here is a good video about how they are made:

I was hit in the head once while fielding at silly mid on (aka bat-pad, right in close next to the batsman on the leg side). Our spinner bowled a full toss and the batsman pulled it straight into me. I didn't have a helmet and it hit me just above the left eyebrow. I was very lucky it didn't hit me straight in the eye. I got knocked out briefly then as I was carried off the field I woke up but my vision was like snow on an old TV set when it is not tuned to a channel. I was only about 12 years old and I got a massive black eye which all my "friends" at school made fun of for a few weeks.

Back when I was a kid a lot of batsmen didn't even wear helmets, and certainly not any of the fielders. You would never want to be hit by one of these international pace bowlers. The problem for Hughes and Smith is that they were hit in spots on the neck that helmet doesn't cover.

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Did you see the last day of that test match? My goodness it was incredible. All I can say after seeing that is that England's luck has to run out soon, surely. After that world cup win and then that test match last night they should all be buying lottery tickets.

That said Australia only have themselves to blame for throwing away the match. First they dropped Stokes in the outfield. Then they wasted their last review on a ball that was never going to be out. Then Lyon dropped the ball when they had a certain run out to win the match. Then next ball he gets Stokes LBW but the umpire says not out and they just wasted their last review. That was a brutal combination of bad judgement, bad fielding, and bad luck. But what a great game.

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Ha-ha..obviously you've had a pretty bad experience "facing" the cricket ball Ed...you've been good at cricket? Probably not too much if you chose football in the end?😉

Yeah, what an outstanding cricket match it has been, after the WC final I thought I couldn't see anything more in terms of drama and thriller in a cricket game but what Ban Stokes did...was probably even beyond that.

Ricky Ponting has said just after it's probably the best batting performance he's ever seen...so should I say anything more really.

Can't remember the exact moment they've dropped Stokes but probably I've missed it...I just remember Warner missed a catch being at the second slip but that was a really tough one and beside Warner has made plenty of catches (some of these outstanding) in this test.

Unlucky...yeah probably the Australians were at times...but the Stokes batting and character he's shown were out of this world really.

By the way Ben Stokes put an outstanding effort as a bowler in the second Australia innings so I think the fate or fortune (whatever you wish to call it) rewarded him for that.

Obviously after being 67 all out in the first innings I thought English are completely out of it..who wouldn't?

But in the end as you said Australians batting wasn't that great (in fact Steve Smith replacement was the best Aussie batsman) so credit to England for keeping the faith...Root set the foundation in the second English innings but Stokes really done the job himself...apart for that N11 batsman (who just before that got 92 score in the county cricket by the way) so I thought the guy is really tempted to play some shots which was quite hilarious to me but...wow...he's done equally good as Stokes being 1/17🙂

I thought Stokes would make an outstanding batting performance but with no one of the order able to stay out there with him I always though the English would felt 20-30 runs short...

But you're right mate..that review decision in the perpetual over was keen...by the time I thought it's obvious that review is just a hope decision cause it was obvious the ball missing the stumps and the on field decision was not out...so a bit of desperate choice but I can't really blame the Aussie skier for that really...probably he thought what we have to loose...if loosing the match in next over anyway... and you're going home with a unused review in your pocket...but by the time...I've also thought...what if they...really need another review...never imagined it would be so dramatic though!

In the end..that was one of the best test cricket tests I've had ever seen..but surely the best single batting performances.

And about Englishmen luck...yeah I also think they were quite lucky this year but probably you don't have to be so worried Ed, I think if Smith returns at least somewhat close to his best and Labuschagne in the squad you'll still win the series...or at least retain the Ashes.

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I was no great cricketer. I only played until I was 14 or 15. I was playing in a team of champions that never lost for a couple of years. It meant that I often didn't get to bat or bowl because I was about 8th choice in either option. I remember one guy we had was an opening batsman that was never dismissed in an entire season. I gave it up to play tennis instead. I can bowl better than that Romanian guy though! 😁

Yeah Warner's miss was really hard, no blame there. They dropped Stokes in the outfield near the end when he still needed about 15 to win. He sliced it down to third man and I can't remember who it was but he ran in and dived forwards to catch it but dropped the ball. It wasn't an easy chance but he got two clean hands on the ball so he really should have held it. And then of course Nathan Lyon with the run out, I think the pressure got to him like Alan Donald in that world cup semi from the 90s where he lost it and dropped his bat while trying to make the winning run.

I thought Australia looked scared actually, and weren't aggressive enough in trying to get Stokes out or keep him on strike to get a shot at Leach in the next over. They kept the field out and allowed Stokes to hit an easy single on the 5th ball of the over time and again. They should have pulled the field in close for the last 2 or 3 balls of each over and if he hits a couple of boundaries it doesn't matter, at least Leach is on strike the next over. Also the bowling to Leach was poor, too many bouncers and short stuff not aimed at the stumps. They needed more balls like the one that got Broad out, full pitch aimed at the stumps to make him play at it.

I was talking about the game at a friend's house on Saturday and he was saying how Australia were sure to win, England were hopeless after scoring 67 etc. At the time I said I wasn't sure, I didn't think Australia had enough runs because England couldn't be that bad again. Sure 350 is a big total but they were going to be batting on a third and fourth day pitch, not a fifth day, and England had no pressure to get the runs quickly. I thought Australia needed at least 400 to be safe and so it turned out, though my opinion changed when they had England 9 out with 70 still to win. They really should have won from there and they had their chances.

It's a good result for the series though. It keeps it alive instead of being all over so early and Australia still need that one more win to hold the ashes.

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I can bowl better than that Romanian guy though! 😁

Lol😂😂😂

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And then of course Nathan Lyon with the run out, I think the pressure got to him like Alan Donald in that world cup semi from the 90s where he lost it and dropped his bat while trying to make the winning run.

Yeah that's been a really great chance, I've been watching Stokes press-conference yesterday and he said 9 out of 10 times that would be run out then, but what many of the people do not realize it's really the immense pressure of the moment and it was all on Lyon to get that ball cleanly...but he still should of caught that one of course.

Yeah, I agree with your assessments of the Australian balling and fielding but they still got that game in their hands and probably England needed a lot of luck as well to go their way for them to win.

At the start of the 4th day I thought England have a decent chance being like 156 with eight wickets in hand but as the day progress and the regularly falling of the wickets I though that chance becoming more and more slimmer and as you said with 9 wickets down and 70 needed I also thought it's over for them..

But there was that feeling in the air you know..the crowd was great...and I've had that feeling it will turn into something special that game all day long.

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It's a good result for the series though. It keeps it alive instead of being all over so early and Australia still need that one more win to hold the ashes.

Yeah, from the interviews with the ex Aussie players I've seen none was too frustrated by the result and in fact they've said the same thing as you knowing it's been a special match and individual performance.

I'm really looking forward to the next one.

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Well..Steve Smith has done it again...don't get me wrong Ed..the guy is just great and certainly one of the best batsmen out there but the English bowling attack just don't have any idea how to deal with him..there's not any particular plan or strategy if you ask me...but I'm not surprised to be honest they haven't been great even in the Smith absence and now I kind of expected his hundred...not the double hundred anyway.

If England are brave and lucky enough (rain delays) they could even probably draw this test..but they probably ran out of their lucky breaks already.

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All I can say after seeing that is that England's luck has to run out soon, surely.

It didn't take long did it? You can say the wayward bowling and a couple of dropped catches is just poor cricket but finally getting Smith out and then finding that a spinner of all people has bowled a no ball is a disaster. Then he goes and hits another 90 runs. The luck well and truly turned on England today.

Smith is a phenomenon with the bat but you are right that England don't seem to have a plan or the discipline to stick to one. Too much short stuff that he easily ducked or just helped on its way for runs. What happened to the old fashioned idea of bowling a good line and length outside off stump?

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6 September 2019 - 8:10pm
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What happened to the old fashioned idea of bowling a good line and length outside off stump?

I don't know mate...think Australian bowlers doing that and have been really disciplined...like the way Hazlewood and Cummins have bowled in day 3 but I think they not using Starc properly...he just have to stick with his aggressive one day bowling in my opinion to have success.

For me at this point England just have to try to bat as long as possible in attempt to drew this test and for the good of the intrigue in the Ashes I hope they'll manage to that.

Really enjoyed how the crowd today have been cheering Lion after catching every ball...I think even he has a little smile about it.

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8 September 2019 - 11:52pm
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Australia was too good in the end - in particular Smith and Cummins. With those two they have a chance in every match, without them both well we saw what happened in the last test which they should have won comfortably. Australia still needs to sort out their opening batsmen. They are always in trouble at the start of the innings and a better side than England would have made them pay for that.

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10 September 2019 - 5:36pm
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I think Starc has done quite decent as well apart from the first day of his bowling(probably that was in day3 ), definitely Australia as a unit have been bowling a lot more constant than England and that for me was the biggest difference..apart for Smith heroics with the bat of course.

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They are always in trouble at the start of the innings and a better side than England would have made them pay for that.

I agree that particularly Warner should improve, mentioned just him cause we know how great of a batsmen he could be but...
In fact who's clearly better than England in test cricket Ed? Probably India(more often than not..and that's about it, NZ..on a day... they could beat the English but could loose with the same ease I guess...

For me if you look the English batting line up...I think as a unit they are even better than the Aussies..and I mean it...Stokes, Bairstow, Buttler, Roy, Root these are all great batsmen who under-perform hugely in test cricket lately...I still think Root's captaincy is not good enough and in fact they can't find the right balance with the bat being ultra defensive minded most of the times...and that's just not the game of those great one day batsmen that England got.

Don't even have to mention the bowling unit and how weird they've been managed by Root at times so.. I think Australians are better coached and managed than England particularly in test cricket.

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12 September 2019 - 6:05pm
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Good first day of cricket in the 5th test today I think.

I've been a bit surprised with the Australia bowling line up..though Starc or Pattison or both should be in the line up, Siddle and Marsh look to be a similar pace bowlers but the latter one have done really well getting four wickets.

Don't know about you Ed but decision to go to bowling after winning the toss also seems a bit odd to me..it looked like a good pitch for batting today and we know England could be really fragile if you make them chasing a big total.

That Leach guy is hilarious by the way..think everybody underestimating him (even his teammates) and it's maybe because of how the guy looks) but I find him really funny and quite decent cricketer as well.

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13 September 2019 - 8:38am
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I agree that deciding to bowl was a strange one. Regardless of the pitch, they just finished another test a few days ago where they bowled last and I'm sure the bowlers would have appreciated an extra day's rest. They have been rotating the bowlers throughout the series but I too would have gone for Starc over Siddle. Starc has the ability to rip through a batting lineup whereas Siddle just sort of tries to bore the batsmen out.

Anyway it turned out pretty good for Australia in the end. When I went to bed England were looking comfortable at 2 for about 120 and I thought I might wake up to see them in a much better position. Australia should be aiming to get the remaining wickets then try to bat for a couple of days so they only have to bat once. I'm not sure if they are capable of batting for that long though.

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