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Just in case anyone beside here me fancies this sport.

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15 July 2019 - 5:12am
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Oh dear... how about this? According to an obscure rule England should only have been given 5 runs instead of 6 for the overthrows where the ball deflected off the bat and went to the boundary.

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15 July 2019 - 10:00am
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That game suppose to be the greatest thriller I've ever seen in my lifetime not just in cricket but any sport really, and certainly the most exiting cricket game I've watched.

What can I say..I really feel sorry for NZ...it should be the toughest way to loose a match(and a WC final!) without technically even being behind in the score...that's beyond tough.

That Stokes moment was an amazing piece of fortune, yeah that won't happen again even in a 1000 tries, you can predict or prevent it, it's just the way the fortune defines the winner sometimes.

But for me the really defying moment was that Boult mistake in the perpetual over..it certainly looked like England will loose the game by the time needing 22 from 9 balls with Stokes the last hope of the Engllish..that moment turned the game around and made English believe I'm sure, check at 5:05 in case you've missed it.

It's been relatively easy catch by the modern standards and in fact Boult has made it but just wasn't aware where the boundary is and stepped over...he made a lot tougher catch v WI to win the game for NZ if you remember that, so the NZ-ers literally have it in their hands..it was Stokes and that would of been the end for England preventing all what happened next I think.

I agree with you they should of play another Super over cause it's tough to loose a game when the score is technically a draw.

If the one team has more boundaries but the other got more wickets..let's say the super over is a fair way to decide the winner and (quite exiting one too) but yeah they should play another one.

With probably 15-20 overs to go the commentators had a good laugh about the super over when they were remind by the producer to mention that...I wasn't aware what it is then either...who could of write such script...no one really, that's why we love it, isn't it.

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16 July 2019 - 7:39am
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Yeah I saw the catch that turned into a six. It was an incredible finish and I am so annoyed I didn't stay up to watch it live. When you consider that non-catch, the deflected four, the incorrect awarding of the extra run, then losing on boundaries, NZ have to be the unluckiest loser of a major sporting event I've ever seen.

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16 July 2019 - 12:38pm
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What can I say Ed..you've missed the game of the century Tongue but it could always be worst...if NZ have won that for example..you'd then regret even more I guess Wink

Yeah I think they are, sometimes(always?) is easier to swallow a hammering defeat when you've been really performed poorly than this.

I can't think of more sadistic way of loosing a game than that either, like you said maybe the unluckiest defeat ever.

But saying that I must agree with Shane Warn who said England deserved the title for what they've shown throughout the tournament and especially in their last last games when they had to win every single one to qualify for the semis and it's been the ultimate pressure over them so they've been the most balanced side in the tournament but in the final NZ have been the slightly better side!

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31 July 2019 - 5:55am
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Have you seen this guy? He is Pavel Florin, a Romanian playing in the European cricket league. Obviously he's not very good and someone thinks it is funny to make fun of him and now he has made the news here today.

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31 July 2019 - 5:38pm
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Ha-ha...no Ed, this is the first time I've heard of the guy...it should be an admirable thing to be so enthusiastic about cricket in a country where it's popularity is ...well literally not existing really.

But the most worrying thing for me is not that his English is almost worst than mine, not even the fact that's the most unbelievable trajectory of spin balling I've had ever seen but the fact he knows his balling is ugly and ineffective ...and he still doesn't care! lol

The guy's ignorance should be his best attribute as a player..or as a person generally...it's not easy to be so thick-skinned anyway.

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1 August 2019 - 4:56am
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It was funny in hindsight seeing him described as "right arm pace" by the TV graphics when he came in to bowl. But you're very generous describing his bowling as spin, almost as much as the commentator saying it was well flighted. I'd call them nude balls... because they have nothing on them. But even so it looked like the batsmen didn't know what to do with them as they were so unusual. He even drew an edge on one ball, maybe he would have had a wicket if he had a slip in place.

I love his enthusiasm and love for the game, and that he doesn't care what anyone thinks. He has gained a bit of support online from some famous players like Shane Warne and Darren Lehmann after being ridiculed. Hopefully in the future he can get a net session with someone like that to learn a few tips. Maybe they should invite him over to England for a couple of days to watch the Ashes. It starts tonight!

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1 August 2019 - 10:15pm
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But you're very generous describing his bowling as spin, almost as much as the commentator saying it was well flighted. I'd call them nude balls... because they have nothing on them.

Yeah....you're probably right there Ed.

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But even so it looked like the batsmen didn't know what to do with them as they were so unusual

Ha-ha...That was what I was thinking as well.

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Damn...forgot to check that despite I've reminded my self. Erm

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2 August 2019 - 8:15am
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Yeah it was a big first day in the Ashes. I watched the first session and after Australia had a horrible start they looked to be back on track with Smith and Head batting well. After lunch there was another almighty collapse and if it wasn't for Smith (he scored 144) and the number 10 and 11 batsmen (Siddle and Lyon) Australia would have been out of the game already. They got 284 in the end which is pretty ordinary but it could have been so much worse.

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2 August 2019 - 6:05pm
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Thanks for the update mate...I didn't even checked the score to be honest so I've missed it completely so far, probably from tomorrow (Saturday) I'd start following it really closely..in another year I would of been really exited for the Ashes but after the phenomenal WC final which was the culmination of the Cricket year (for me) is kind of understandable to be a bit indifferent about it...I'm sure that would change once I've take a look at it.

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5 August 2019 - 5:49am
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Steve Smith is a genius with the bat in hand. He's just hit another 142 in the second innings. Australia declared with a lead of 398 and now England most likely will look to hold on and bat out the final day for a draw. Australia must be heavy favourites now. The pitch is starting to spin a lot and Lyon on a fifth day pitch will be hard to deal with. It has been a big turnaround since Australia were about 8/120 on the first day.

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5 August 2019 - 5:07pm
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... Australia were about 8/120 on the first day.

Yeah that was one of the two key moments in the test for me and the fact England weren't able to score big in the first innings to what looked a good possibility to extend their advantage well over that 90runs but their middle batting order doesn't performed really.

Yeah, Smith does it brilliantly and you got it right about the fifth day Ed.

It's beyond my understanding why Archer who have done excellent at the WC was not in the squad but instead the injured Anderson who couldn't even ball.

I have my doubts on one or two others in the English line up and the batting order but that's up to them to address, don't think Root's captaincy is that good either...compared to that of Morgan or Steve Smith's (yeah I know technically he's not the skipper) but I think he is in fact.

I've never fancied that for me negative approach of England in the fifth day, when you're in survival mode all the pressure is on you, and that giving the bowlers all the confidence in the world, go out there score 300 fail a bit short but entertain the crowd..in the end it's not just the result that matters but the way you've lost a game is also important.

Steve Smith for me just has the biggest balls if you ask me cause I could argue there's at least a couple of better batsmen in the English side than him(or at least at his level)...but the character is what making the difference in the end...in any sport not just cricket.

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5 August 2019 - 11:23pm
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It was a comfortable victory in the end. I get what you're saying about England having a go at getting the runs but I think maybe you underestimate how hard it is to bat on a fifth day test match pitch. It is dry and crusty with scuffed footmarks from the bowlers from the other four days. This brings the spinners into play as the ball spins a lot more and the bounce is inconsistent. So it makes it very hard to play attacking shots. That showed with Lyon getting 6 wickets in the second innings.

In fact if you look here at the record fourth innings run chases in test matches, there have only ever been four totals higher than the 398 that Australia set England to win that were successfully achieved. There have been a few more than that but they only lead to losses or draws. So it was almost mission impossible for England.

You see the number 1 score on that list that is way ahead of the others - England 654/5 drawing while chasing 696 to win against South Africa. There is a good story behind that. It was a famous "timeless test match" where they played for 10 days before giving up with England almost certain to win. The English team had to leave to catch a boat back home to England. Here's a good description of the match: When 10 days were not enough

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6 August 2019 - 11:58am
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Yeah I get your point about the tough batting conditions on the field especially in the last day but isn't that the whole point Ed?

I mean if you leave the bowlers to just pressure you they'd have all the confidence in the world to even increase the pressure, and in fact the pitch conditions are what make it tough to survive batting trough whole of the day i think.

I'm not saying to go out there and play a T20 style but certainly the England batsmen could of be more free minded knowing the game would of be almost certainly lost anyway, as you point that as well.

Most of the English batsmen have been dismissed playing a defensive shots anyway, but Roy for example played ultra defensively and then suddenly tried a big six hit which ended catastrophic..and it usually that's not the right approach for me, there's have to be some balance but it's also should be premeditated mind set in the dressing room and for me the English players looked like they're on different pages and confused what exactly their approach should be.

Saying all that I still think the Aussies would of won the game anyway but for me England would of easily overcome that pity 140 whatever scoreline being in the right frame of mind and playing more agressively, free your arms, fancy yourself and entertain the crowd...at least loose in style Wink

This might be an amateurish comparison (or example) but for me it's a bit like parking the bus in football when you need just a draw and you have a good attacking squad..so you don't use your side strong qualities, defending all the time which means the pressure would be all on your defense and gk all the time and if you're lucky enough you could take the result you're need in the end but more often than not that tactic would fail.

Steve Smith is the perfect example for me he might be a great player but in fact he's best attribute for me is his leaders character which usually separates the good players from the the really great ones and that lack in this England side and Root's captaincy for me.

In the end being 90 runs ahead after the first innings and opponents declared after the second is an unforgivable way of loosing a match and it's quite a failure I think.

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You see the number 1 score on that list that is way ahead of the others - England 654/5 drawing while chasing 696 to win against South Africa. There is a good story behind that. It was a famous "timeless test match" where they played for 10 days before giving up with England almost certain to win. The English team had to leave to catch a boat back home to England. Here's a good description of the match: When 10 days were not enough

Yeah great story Ed, but a different era really I guess the players back then weren't so busy in the country cricket as these days, playing a timeless tests , and in the end probably a fair result cause would it be too harsh on any side to loose that epic match really.

But for me this story also proves everything is possible if you have the right mentality and enough courage and belief, there's not an impossible chase I guess.

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20 August 2019 - 4:52pm
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A premeditated draw in the second test I guess, they've had lost like how much..day and a half of play?...so any other result than a draw looked unrealistic from the very start I guess.

But the big news is the absence of Steve Smith from the third test which probably will encourage the English.
I still question most of the Root's decisions as a captain...think he overloaded his main!? bowler Archer in his first test! (the guy was not even selected for the first test, which alone is ridiculous) and not using enough the rest of the bowler's core.

The batting order also looks a mess with Roy struggling as an opener and I think he should be moved to 4th or 5th and instead Denly(who's a specialist opener) moved on top of the order.

But anyway let's see if Root will make at least some of the needed changes cause if they don't manage to beat Australia without Steve Smith in 3rd..England will loose the Ashes and quite rightly so.

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