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Just in case anyone beside here me fancies this sport.
I'm just watching the 4th ODI between England and Australia in UK.
The Englishmen have the upper hand in the series leading 3-0 but Australia looking good today and maybe they could clinch at least one.
I think the series and especially the last game have been really entertaining, especially from an English point of view but Aussies ODI's team missing a few keen players (two best fast bowlers I believe) and some really good batsmen’s, so maybe a logical outcome so far when we know Australia team has been rebuild just recently changing coach and captain and the results weren't great even before that.
Any thoughts about that Ed, you've been following this recently?
I haven't followed these recent games at all apart from reading that England smashed the highest ever one day innings of 481 the other day, which I wish I had seen. I used to be a keen cricket follower when I was younger, and back in those days 220 was seen as a good score in a 50 over game. Scoring at over 9.5 runs per over is incredible!
However they started playing so many games that mean so little that a lot of people like myself have lost interest. I mean I'm vaguely aware they were playing England but they are just one-dayers (test matches are my preferred game) and I don't even know where they are playing or for what. I guess they are like football friendlies, ultimately meaningless, but they play about 10 times as many of them.
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Yeah the previous game when England smashed all kind of records was really entertaining, so many boundaries that it was ridiculous, but that was one of the smallest fields when the previous 50 over record was set too.
In the test cricket Australia whitewashed England 5-0 earlier this yearin the Ashes, it was like a two completely different teams(quite true for Australia) but they really struggling in the shortest formats, I think they will be better at next year ODI World Cup when all the missing players now will be back.
They playing mainly for the rankings Ed, but honour and pride too, I think this games have a bit more value in them than the football friendlies but the World Cups in both 50 and 20 over formats are the biggest events of course.
Yeah the Australian team is usually quite different for the test matches and one-dayers. Over the past 10 or 20 years some players have emerged as kind of specialists in one form of the game over the other. You're right that for sure the players care about the one day games but not many other people do nowadays.
One of the reasons 20-20 cricket became so popular so quickly was that in this day and age of instant entertainment people don't want to sit around for 10 hours to watch a 50 over game where the middle 30 overs are spent with the fields out and batsmen scoring 6 an over in easy singles. 20-20 compresses the first 15 overs of restricted fields from the longer one-dayers and the last 5 overs of smash and bash into one quick innings. It is exciting to watch but there isn't much margin for error. Sometimes you know one team is gone after only 5 overs or so if they have a bad start.
Actually I wouldn't mind seeing 20-20 games with 2 innings per side instead of 50 over one-dayers. But it would probably take too long for the low attention span crowds and TV executives these days.
In fact I like all form of cricket Ed, every format has it's own charm.
Obviously the tendencies are more 20-20 and 50 overs to be played for the account of test cricket but that's pretty logical and in fact I think adding to the game's popularity in the wider auditory to be honest.
The 2016 20-20 World cup was one of the more entertaining events I've had ever saw in any sport and it's pretty obvious why the mass public(including me ) like it.
There's also power play(I'm sure you know) in both shorter formats which adds for the high scoring games too.
Some people even asking if there's a future for the test cricket or this format is about to disappear after more and more leading players taking part in the commercial 20-20 leagues like IPL and Big Bash and some of them refuse (or sometimes not able) to play test cricket like almost all West Indies famous names...so I think test cricket would be limited more and more for the years to come although I'm not expecting to see it vanished of course.
Yeah the Australians have 3 different skippers for the all 3 formats which means a different approach in all three I guess, but they've been really struggling in the shorter formats in the past years.
By the way they've lost the final match against England although they've had really good chances of winning it despite being all out for 205 after just 34.4! overs batting, but then with a really good bowling performance they've almost won the game despite all expectations so I think they have a few good and perspective players even in this so young team.
Not trying to annoy you with that Ed but just a remark that England won the last 20-20 game from the series too and by that completed the whitewash of total 6-0 games in this series.
The Australian batsmen done very poorly although they've had a huge chasing target for this format of over 220, the captain Aaron Finch was by far the best batter and could of easily gets even a hundred but went a bit unlucky for 84, his survival to the closing overs was the key I think for an eventual Australia win but he doesn't managed to do that but he was great really.
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I'm looking to the start of the second test match between England and India today, the first innifs were great and even though a low scoring afar it was an amazing competition between bat and ball.
For all those who support this form of cricket this match is a great advertising of the test game.
I think the Indians were quite close to the win in the first one but been even a bit unlucky maybe so a 3,50 odds for their win worth a try I think.
I don't know about that bet. Don't forget that while India are always strong at home, they are not very good travellers. Considering their ability they are probably the most underperforming team in world cricket when playing away from home, or at least outside of India, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh.
Then again now I've said that they will probably win the test by an innings inside three days. Just you watch!
I wouldn’t stake it pre-game anyway Ed, I would of wait for the test to start and then deciding accordingly what's going on and if I like it.But thanks for the advice.
The game just started after a couple of days of rain delays and India are 11-2!-rain delay again..so you might be pretty right in your thoughts about it above!
That's why I'm staking on cricket too rarely, India are 107 all out while England leading by 250! runs after Saturday closure.
In fact the previous day was terrible for batting and the Indians were unlucky to loose the toss and needed to batting first but...there's expectations of a bad weather for Sunday and in fact the game could it end up in a draw in the end.
In fact England won by an innings and 159 runs which sounds almost strange against the top ranked test side in the world.
That would of been one of the most wasteful bets I've had ever made
I think the English side has a lot of talent despite some strange choices in their batting line up and they are really one of the top sides out there, but I think they have a problems with the away test series when there's more pressure over them mentally and that's obvious being whitewashed 5-0 in the Ashes and before that in India.
But they look really good of whining this current series though.
Yeah I'm not surprised. Especially after a bit of rain when the ball is swinging about and the pitch is a little damp. That is really not India's game. If I could give you one betting tip for cricket it would be to never bet on India when they play outside of the subcontinent.
.If I could give you one betting tip for cricket it would be to never bet on India when they play outside of the subcontinent.
.If I could give you one betting tip for cricket it would be to never bet on India when they play outside of the subcontinent.
OK Ed will try to remember that, looks useful advice especially after this humiliating loss for them.
Here's a good article with some stats. It is a few years old now but it supports what I am saying so I'm going with it!
Yeah Ed, a good riddance which pretty much confirms your statement.
To be honest I wasn't noticed that cause maybe my attention is spread equally to the all 3 variance of the game and in the recent years I've seen a lot more of the shortest formats than a test cricket really
OK, that's the numbers but how would you explain that?
The biggest reason should be in the different conditions obviously(mainly because of the pitches and the way ball turns and spins in the different areas) but I'm not so sure that the mental part is also equally important for that when it's about to test of character and strength in the longest format.
Obviously the home crowd also has its role but reading all those stats I realized one thing - there's not such a dominant team these days like Australia had been in the early years of the century which should mean a better home records for all the top teams now.
Yeah I think its is probably to do with a number of things. First up the hot and dry conditions in India, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka mean their pitches tend to be dry, so less swing and movement for the pace bowlers, then they dry out quicker and crack up which makes it good conditions for the spinners. So the Indian spinners are devastating at home, while the foreign pace bowlers don't enjoy as much help from the pitch. Then India has some of the best batsmen in the world on both flat pitches and playing against spin so they average way more at home. None of these things work in their favour away from home though.
The second one is that touring teams from first world countries like Australia, England, and New Zealand are always whinging about how difficult it is to tour the sub-continent. The excuses are usually the heat, the food, the standard of the pitches and outfield, the crowds that follow them everywhere, you name it they complain about it. True or not, they sometimes seem to me to be mentally beaten before they even play there.
I agree that those team's records should be improving now that there isn't a single dominant team any more, at least not as dominant as Australia were recently and the West Indies before them.
It looks like India are about to win the 3rd test, only needing one more wicket with England still more than 200 runs behind. The only slim hope England have is rain and showers are forecast for Trent Bridge on the last day. An Indian victory would keep the series alive with either team still able to win it with 2 more tests to play.
Yeah I'm agree with all that you're saying about the Indian team home advantage and how the conditions influencing their home and away records.
You said they've got one of the best batsmen in the world but in the first two tests against England they looked like a single star team in the face of Cohli of course and even in the third test which they won by a margin Cohli was far above anyone else in his team in terms of batting figures, so I'm not saying they aren't good enough but for me no one from the rest is even close to Cohli really.
I find the English selection for a bit strange and maybe 2-5 players shoudn't be even there and maybe the whole their batting order and line up had been set wrongly but I think even in those batting unit they are better than the Indians(at least in the English conditions)...we will see about that in the next couple of tests I guess.
Otherwise I'm agree with what you saying about Australia,NZ and England when it comes to subcontinent tour and all their complains about everything they could think off, in the end most of their main players are IPL participants in the last years so they should get use to the food, pitches and whatever really.
The stats have been confirmed again, India lost the 4th test chasing around 240 and I was amazed to hear that they've only managed to chase a 200+ score only 3 times ever! in away matches.
India seem bowlers were OK, in fact real good but their spinner and their batting apart for Kohli of course were terrible,just Pujara scored 130+ in the first innings of the 4th test.
Some of the English batsmen also slightly underperformed but I think as a unit they're better than the Indians(at least in the English conditions)
But generally that's been a great test match and the batters should of battle hard for their runs which of course is quite different in the one day formats.
Check out that guys...you're surely don't want to fall asleep at a cricket match.
That's the biggest tower at least I've had ever saw!
The next one is just hilarious.
I've seen some funny stuff in the crowd at the cricket. There's always plenty of down time and you have to amuse yourselves sometimes.
Yeah...exactly Ed, and that should be just one of the reasons which makes this sport so...entertaining , isn't it!?
Indeed but I have to concede that one man's entertaining is also one man's wife's utterly, mind-numbingly boring! At least in my case that's true.
Ha-ha... Well I guess it comes with a few downsides too..
The ODI World Cup in England has been starting today, any thoughts about that Ed, interested at all?
Heard that the Australians have been in pretty good form lately.
Just watching the opening game now between England and South Africa, two of the top 4 favs according the bookies.
But there could be some value in the New Zealand odds being evaluated at 10.00 or even West Indies at 17.00.
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