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It's a soccer world cup for our American friends Wink

You think it's too early for that thread? Don't think so...one big shock is all ready a fact - Italy are going to miss the WC, who would thought of that!?

Don't remember that happened with them before, at least in my lifetime, they seem to be on every big event WC or European Championship and not only that, they are always one of the favourites of winning it, and you could imagine seeing them reaching at least the last 8 if they were qualified on this one too.

Sweden were in the same group as Bulgaria at this qualifiers so I saw they playing really good football despite we have defeated them 3-2 in Sofia, so maybe a bit of logic in that too but still it's tough to imagine the WC without the Italians.

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I'm enjoying this world cup way more than the last couple. There have been so many exciting games and a lot of teams playing an attacking style and trying to win games. Japan vs Senegal was a beauty of a match, as was Germany vs Sweden of course (poor Sweden!).

Germany vs Brazil is always a good match up but Brazil especially would have a lot to play for if they meet again this time after their humiliation in the last world cup. I know Germany have started slow and only just managed to get the points against Sweden but they utterly dominated that second half and if the chances start going in they are going to be very hard to beat. They should beat Korea and qualify.

Even last night Iran should have won it at the end against Portugal, I don't know how they missed that late chance. It would have been sweet to see such a negative team like Portugal go out early. Not that Iran are much better, and I can't stand the sound of all the vuvuzelas at their match. Someone needed to tell their fans that they were 8 years too late for that particular annoyance!

So we know a couple of the next stage matches already. Uruguay vs Portugal, I can only hope the South Americans put Portugal out if for nothing else their negative way of playing. The other one is Spain vs Russia and I can't see the home side progressing past that particular match. They played well the first two games but as soon as they had to play a quality team in Uruguay they were found out.

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26 June 2018 - 4:36pm
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I wouldn't write off Russia's chances just yet Ed, yeah they were smashed by Uruguay but first of all they saved a 3-4 keen players efforts in this plus I'm not sure they were 100% motivated for this, don't get me wrong I don't think the Russians are too good just against this so shaky Spanish side anyone would have a chance at the knock out stages.

Sorry for the Australian side Ed, but at least they know that even if they've won that one that still wouldn't be enough which makes defeat slightly easier to accept I guess.

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26 June 2018 - 8:21pm
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As for Uruguay and Portugal, I think both teams playing similar stile so I would be surprised if that game wouldn't be decided in extra time or penalties, I might be wrong about it too but that’s just my feeling.

Argentina just go true, not convincing again but they managed to do it, Nigeria have played well just 45mins on this WC - second half v Iceland, and I think that's not enough although they were pretty close.

Argentina - France -quite a game at the last 16, probably not going to watch that Smile

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Germany vs Brazil is always a good match up but Brazil especially would have a lot to play for if they meet again this time after their humiliation in the last world cup. I know Germany have started slow and only just managed to get the points against Sweden but they utterly dominated that second half and if the chances start going in they are going to be very hard to beat. They should beat Korea and qualify.

Korea FIFA 57th beat Germany FIFA 1st Joking lol
The score is 2:0 .

But, Korea is also disqualified for the tournament matches...

Mexico should have beat Sweden,,, alas Cry

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It should be considered as a big upset that the Germans are out but I think if we see what they've shown over the course of the 3 games on the tournament it's in fact really a logical failure for them.
In fact without that late goal against Sweden they would be out even before the last round, not mathematically but practically.
I guess it could be found many reasons for that but I think they just played very slowly without any spark in the game and when you playing that passing style in front of your opponent penalty area not passing quick enough you're getting too predictable and in the same time very vulnerable at counters when you loose the ball.
Also lack of leaders...there's could be some inside problems we don't know about but whatever it is the Germans just weren't anywhere near their best and it was obvious.
I don't think the Argentines were going to make it from this group too but they were quite lucky to meat the teams they've met.

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Frankly, German individual players were much better than Korean players.

Korean players in the first half lost balls to Germany too easily. It was really disappointing see, ah.

But, in the 2nd half, German players got hasty for win, because Sweden was winning over Mexico like 2:0 at the same time. Germany and Korea both needed Mexico to win Sweden Cry

And Korean players wasn't shaken apart in defense, Korean goalie was great and finally got a very lucky chance, while German shooters were very unlucky with some shootings and headings Joking

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Frankly, German individual players were much better than Korean players.

I agree with what most of what you saying there coolsongs but football never been an individual sport (despite that most of the Messi and Ronaldo fans would claim the opposite) so the Germans for me never looked likely to score in this game(that was the general feeling) despite all the situations(from which just 2 or 3 were really clear chances) and I'm sure the players didn't know the result in the other game so that shouldn't be a factor(or excuse) but well done to Koreans who defended and fought really well during the game and deserved the win.
0-0 or 0-2 it would have the same meaning for Germany but for the Koreans it's a huge result, they just weren't that good in their first two games but they could always say - we defeated the current world champs.
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You seem not to know, but World Cup Final is really a big event, like a national feast in the qualified countries Smile

Win or lose, Korean team was doing not good in many aspects with Sweden and Mexico, ah... they had to show at least one good game.

Overall in the game with Germany, Korean defense was quite good, but the attack was still not very sharp and effective.

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You seem not to know, but World Cup Final is really a big event, like a national feast in the qualified countries Smile

I don't know Yeah I think I know that man, 94' when Bulgaria played at the semis it was something unseen here, madness really, I don't think I would ever experience such thing any more, the whole nation was in delirium.

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So there's 4 left of the five you mentioned as 'the only teams who could win the world cup Ed', and Argentines were pretty close to make that number to just 3 Wink

Anyway hope the final won't be between any two of those or I would not be interested in watching that game,for sure, and I will add Portugal to these so I know it's pretty impossible task but I hope any of the rest could reach the final, or maybe I'm stopping with this championship even at the semis stage, quite possible.

But when I checked the bracket in fact only one of Argentina, Brazil, France and Portugal could reach the final as they are all in the same part of the scheme plus we'll have to add the winner of the Belgium - England group so...all to... loose for in today's game for those two sides - quite interesting.

And in fact I'm just hoping Spain won't go true of the bottom half of the draw.

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Quite tricky situations yesterday when both England and Belgium wasn't too desperate to win the game, in the end maybe the Belgians didn't do themselves a favour winning the match and going to the toughest part of the scheme, if they of course beat Japan first which looks quite likely.

Don't know what to think of the two knock out games tomorrow, hardly could a pick a winner between France and Argentina and in Uruguay - Portugal games, for me the teams looks even and I won't be surprised if extra time and possibly penalties are needed for the first two quarter-finalist to be cleared.

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So there's only two left of the big teams Ed, and they can't meet each other at the final, I like the way this championship going so far.
I don't think it's too surprising for both Spain and Portugal going out the way they play even during the group stages.

I think Belgium would have their chances against Brazil in a potential quarter-final but let's first see if those two could reach that stage.

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The upsets just keep coming don't they? It's great to see! Germany out, Argentina out, Spain out! Teams like England and Belgium are having their chances of winning go up drastically while they are not even playing.

Last night, Spain passed and passed and passed until almost everyone fell asleep (including me!) except for the Russian defence. I don't think I have ever seen a team so dominant in terms of possession and territory with so little to show for it.

I have seen Mbappe play before but I did not realise just how fast he is until last night. That sprint that lead to the first goal with the penalty was amazing. Three players were chasing him and couldn't get near him. The final foul was stupid because he had probably lost the ball and gone wide away from goal but his speed had put panic in the defenders minds. France look to be gradually improving with each game which is a good sign in a tournament like this.

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Croatia wasn't too impressive yesterday either, I've expected more from them, in fact Denmark were slightly the better side I think, but it's always a lottery at the penalties.
No surprise Danish best player missed one and Schmeihel who's probably the better goalie saved two but not quite enough after the Croatian keeper saved 3!

Yeah Mbape is really quick but if you ask me the Argentine defence didn't knew whey they really, there's no way of one player winning the ball against 3 after a so long pass if they are rightly positioned(at least it's unlikely)
For me the most stupid tackle was the firs one of Rojo for the penalty, Mbape outrun him by much but he was going nowhere really toward the outline so I think he could only do two things - a bad angle shot or pass (but I'm not sure there was other Frenchmen up front) so Rojo panicked and really put an effort to pull the striker down.
I don't know why Rojo is in play (at least as a central back) at first play, so I think Mbape had a great game obviously but partly(or mostly) because of the so ridiculous Argentine defence.

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Another couple of games from the last 16 stage today.

For me it would be curious if Brazil and Belgium could build over their performance in the group, I think both teams having a tough opponents and would have problems today.

Mexico were quite impressive in the group stage and I think they could really hurt Brazil, or maybe I just hope so... Smile

Don't expecting too easy of a game for Belgium either but of course they will be the favourites against Japan after what they've shown so far.

One upset in those two? I think it's possible.

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So Brazil go true reasonably but what a performance by the Japanese, they probably shouldn't loose that game(in the regular time anyway) and the Belgians got lucky not entering the extra time.

Cant's see them winning if they play like this against Brazil but once again well done to Japan, a brave performance.

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Yeah that game was heartbreaking for Japan. One minute Courtois is making a diving one handed save to stop Japan winning the match then 30 seconds later the ball is in the back of the net up the other end. I felt so sorry for them but really they were naive sending so many forward for that last corner and they defended the counter attack poorly.

I watched Sweden beat Switzerland 1-0 and it had to be one of the lowest quality matches in the tournament so far. Both teams were very poor and mostly unwilling to take a risk. Shaqiri and Forsberg were the only two players worth watching. Sweden's striker Berg couldn't hit an elephant in a tunnel. It was a relief that the game actually got a goal from a lucky deflection of a poor shot. At least there was no extra time!

And I didn't see it so I 'm not sure I can believe it but apparently England actually won a penalty shootout. Italy and Netherlands didn't qualify, now Spain, Germany, and Argentina are all out, and England are winning games on penalties. This world cup truly has gone mental!

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Yeah naive is the right word for the Japan's approach Ed, even when they were 2-0 up they should of done more passing and holding the ball instead of just attacking, the last corner was just the top of all that.

I'd kind of disagree with you about Sweden game, think at times they made quite good combinations and really had 4 or 5 great chances to score, Switzerland had a couple themselves.
Imagine Ibrahimovic being there, they would of score 2 or 3 and would of win that with ease, the chances were there and I'm agree with what you saying about Berg.

Maybe you didn't saw the England game but I think it was even lower in quality in fact, Colombians made the game extremely rude and nervous playing very defensively for the 90minutes and only England's naivety and the luck allow them to equalize in the end.
It took about 10 minutes for Kane's penalty to be executed because of all the Colombians protests and it was a clear penalty too, that's just an example of how ugly of a game that was, think a couple of sent off's would of been right on the spot but the ref was just too soft.

Since the start of the game I've had a feeling it's about time England to win(for once) after penalties and it's what happened in the end.

I could see a lot of troubles for them against Sweden thou playing like this, although I'm sure Sweden will allow them play more than the Colombians did.

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And what about the quarters Ed, it's a shocking of a World Cup till now but that's the way we like it Wink

I guess all games would be really close, of course France, Brazil, Croatia and England are the favourites but do they?

I hope some of this won't make it to be even more exiting, really want to see a new team being crowned.

Any particular expectations?

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Sounds like a pretty good upset for one side fellas, me being a Canadian, there's only one sport I follow , and of course that's hockey lol

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Sounds like a pretty good upset for one side fellas, me being a Canadian, there's only one sport I follow , and of course that's hockey lol

Yeah of course, ice hockey is a great sport, hockey fan myself Wink

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And Brazil are also out, didn't followed the game closely but I saw de Bruyne goal, Courtois had a lot to do in this game and I still think Belgium are kind of shaky in defence despite the win.

I think there was penalty for Brazil too but it wasn't given, anyway probably the Brazilians should be mad first at themselves for not being efficient in front of goal.

The other two quarters today, should be interesting there too.

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Well, the Swedish were just too weak for England, comfortable win for them.

Croatia won another one after penalties but I guess it won't be third time lucky for them, they should be better against England.

France - Belgium should be an exiting one...I kind of feel it should be France against England at the final but it could be Belgium v Croatia easily too.

It's a crazy world cup so far so why stopping here..let it be crazy till the very end Smile

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Yeah the upsets have kept coming but to tell the truth I am quite happy to see the back of the likes of Neymar, Pepe, Ramos and all their histrionics. Wonderful players sure, but awful sportsmen. The thing I can't understand with all their play acting, off the ball thuggery, and faux injuries is that they know that half the world is watching them yet they don't even care. Winning or getting their opponent sent off means that much to them. Clearly all that money doesn't buy a bit of dignity or self respect.

I include Henderson in that bracket after his dive against Colombia when touched by what I read was a "head-butt" but later saw was more like a little head nudge. There's no place for that either and the Colombian should have been sent off, but Henderson's reaction was worthy of at least a yellow card too. The entire Colombian team should be ashamed of the way they carried on after that penalty decision you mentioned. It was as clear as a foul can be. Not just arguing with the referee and still complaining about it afterwards, they even tried to dig up the penalty spot! Well at least they lost. Good bye and good riddance.

I would absolutely love to see a Belgium vs Croatia final as that would guarantee a new winner. But I have a really bad feeling that the stars are aligning for an England victory. They must have had the easiest run of any team in a world cup ever to reach the semis. The only game they had against a top class opponent they lost, which ironically ended up handing them a lucky draw. Croatia is only ranked 20 in the world, ignoring arguments about how crap the world rankings are of course, and have now played two successive games of 120 minutes so are bound to be tired. For England it's a matter of getting over the line in two games and there's no doubt they can do it. Boy do I hope not though, we'll never hear the end of it if they do. I know some big mouthed English supporters who were born in the 1980s who still talk up winning in 1966 as if they had something to do with it. I am trying to avoid them at the moment! Wink

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Sharpe, sadly these days , im still a Vancouver Canucks fan, loyal all the way, I like the Calgary Flames also but this is cuz I live here lol

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Yeah the upsets have kept coming but to tell the truth I am quite happy to see the back of the likes of Neymar, Pepe, Ramos and all their histrionics. Wonderful players sure, but awful sportsmen. The thing I can't understand with all their play acting, off the ball thuggery, and faux injuries is that they know that half the world is watching them yet they don't even care. Winning or getting their opponent sent off means that much to them. Clearly all that money doesn't buy a bit of dignity or self respect.

Yeah Ed, couldn't be more agree with all you saying above, and just one remark, you forgot maybe the best (worst?!) actor of them all -Mr Ronaldo.
Think for many of these players the end justifies the means and ...dignity...I'm not sure most of these knows the meaning of this word.

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I include Henderson in that bracket after his dive against Colombia when touched by what I read was a "head-butt" but later saw was more like a little head nudge. There's no place for that either and the Colombian should have been sent off, but Henderson's reaction was worthy of at least a yellow card too. The entire Colombian team should be ashamed of the way they carried on after that penalty decision you mentioned. It was as clear as a foul can be. Not just arguing with the referee and still complaining about it afterwards, they even tried to dig up the penalty spot! Well at least they lost. Good bye and good riddance.

Agree here too, although I'm kind of tend to excuse the English players behaviour in this game after all the s..t from Colombians in this one, it would of be almost impossible to be a sportsman after all that.

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I would absolutely love to see a Belgium vs Croatia final as that would guarantee a new winner. But I have a really bad feeling that the stars are aligning for an England victory. They must have had the easiest run of any team in a world cup ever to reach the semis. The only game they had against a top class opponent they lost, which ironically ended up handing them a lucky draw. Croatia is only ranked 20 in the world, ignoring arguments about how crap the world rankings are of course, and have now played two successive games of 120 minutes so are bound to be tired. For England it's a matter of getting over the line in two games and there's no doubt they can do it. Boy do I hope not though, we'll never hear the end of it if they do. I know some big mouthed English supporters who were born in the 1980s who still talk up winning in 1966 as if they had something to do with it. I am trying to avoid them at the moment! Wink

Ha-ha, good luck with that Ed,
You're sound pretty sure that England are going to win it, I'm not so sure about that..think they could loose the final even if not before that.
Maybe the French looks like the favs but should be a slight margins from now on, I think France has the best squad for the future and it looks to me almost inevitable that they're going to win..something in the next years so don't wanna see them starting just yet..so for sure prefer the Belgians.

It's kind of weird that players like Lampard, Terry, Gerard, Becham, Scholes never managed to even reach a big event semis, not even mentioning winning a cup, while this current team have done that relatively easy and being even linked with the end tournament win, don't think this is the better generation than what the English got so I think it would of be kind of illogical thing to happen... but yeah of course it's possible.

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Sharpe, sadly these days , im still a Vancouver Canucks fan, loyal all the way, I like the Calgary Flames also but this is cuz I live here lol

Yeah, I can understand your feelings if you're a Canucks fan Smile

If I'm not mistaken the Sedins got retired after this past season so it would of be kind of restructuring time for them and that's always tough but who knows..it could be for good.

As for the Flames I think they've had a decent season being close to entering the play-offs but dips in the end, still some young talent there so they might be a team to watch in the future.

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Maybe a deserved win for France, I haven't seen the whole of the second half but even in the first it looked like Belgium are toothless, just the feeling was that France are the more dangerous side.

Another one decided after penalties today?!