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Games of the XXXI Olympiad, Rio 2016

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With the official opening ceremony only a couple of days away, its time for an Olympic sized thread.

I noticed today that the games have already begun for some, with the women's football first round played last night and the men's going ahead today. The men's comp is always unpredictable due to the under 23 (+3 overage) rule, but Brazil with Neymar are the hot favourites.

One important question is will Rio cope? Stories of the venues being incomplete and the locals very unhappy with the extravagant spending on facilities instead of basic necessities of life just won't go away. This cartoon sums it up nicely.

But the most interesting thing for me is can Usain Bolt break his own world record again? Can anybody run faster than this man?

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Thanks for the thread Ed Thumb Up I was going to create one if you weren't ; )

Yes I was surprised to see there are football matches all ready, thought at first that they are friendlies but those appears to be real deal, we have even the first upset Brazil v South Africa 0-0, despite that RSA played half an hour man short.
I don't know if the complaints about the needless spending from the locals are well-founded because I think most of the funds coming from IOC I guess but we know there are huge communities which lives in poverty there so I guess is annoying for them but then isn't it the right question should Brazil organize such event at first place? Because it's quite sure that the summer Olympics hosting couldn't be a cheap one.

And about Bolt - first of all the guy is not my favourite ( a bit lofty for my taste) but anyway I don't think anybody could beat him if is close to his best shape, even at the World Championship when he looked a bit overweighted and probably not in best condition he still manage to win the gold on 100 & 200m so hopefully but I don't think is likely anybody to beat him.

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Yeah, lucky I didn't place that multi bet on Iraq, Brazil, Argentina, and Germany that I was going to. I would have lost on all counts! Smile

We had the Olympics here in 2000 and believe me, a lot of local public government money goes into building the stadiums and other facilities. The IOC doesn't pay for all that. And I think that is why the locals are so angry about it. They just had to World Cup two years ago so I guess they were trying to economise by hosting two big events but when the country is struggling for basic necessities it must seem extravagant to someone living in the favelas.

I had a look at the schedule and the men's cycling road race is first up on Saturday, then the women's on Sunday. I'm surprised to see that so soon after the Tour de France just finished. Couldn't they have given them another week's rest?

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I had a look at the schedule and the men's cycling road race is first up on Saturday, then the women's on Sunday. I'm surprised to see that so soon after the Tour de France just finished. Couldn't they have given them another week's rest?

I don't think the Olimpic games schedule is adjusted according to the separate individual sports schedules Ed.
As far as I know the mass start in men's cycling would be quite appropriate for climbers, there will be some ups and downs and Nibali is keen to win it. Froome is ready to challenge the time trial although is not certain what's Dumoulin's condition.
Anyway there's Vuelta up coming so maybe you're right Ed the Olympic games were too soon after the Tour but hopefully this guys will have time for rest before Vuelta because most of the big names will ride there too.

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We had the Olympics here in 2000 and believe me, a lot of local public government money goes into building the stadiums and other facilities. The IOC doesn't pay for all that. And I think that is why the locals are so angry about it. They just had to World Cup two years ago so I guess they were trying to economise by hosting two big events but when the country is struggling for basic necessities it must seem extravagant to someone living in the favelas.

Yes you right Ed, but there also other point of view too.
First of all there should be something like a referendum before the country applying for such events.
Also I don't think those funds would it be spend for the poorest peoples anyway, it's quite naive to think that way. beside there are lots of people "against" when the see how they money have been spent but have nothing to say previously.
I don't think only richest counties have to organise such events also, there's always a way especially if the funds are spent wisely.
All these sporting facilities will be there for a future exploration which is essential.
And if Brazil have been won the World Cup of football would it be there any people in the country moaning about should they organize the tournament?

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Wasn't able to see much of the road cycling race yesterday because there was only basketball on the TV ad I wasn't home to check the other channels.
From what' I saw lately there were many crashes and I saw Nibali and Porte from the big names hit the ground, in the end Van Avermaet who win it is not even a clymber but a rider for the one day races - classics.
The first day was very successful for the Australian swimmers who took two golds, I'm sure you're aware Ed, congrats for that.

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Oh yes the media here is talking it up saying "look how good we are, we're winning the Olympics!" and stupid stuff like that. We may as well enjoy it for one day because it won't be like that for long! lol Australia always looks good in the first week when all the swimming and track cycling is going on. Then we win hardly anything in the second week when its all athletics.

I saw that a guy from Vietnam won his country's first ever gold medal, in shooting on the first day. I thought that was a lot more awesome than us winning another swimming race. I love it when the underdogs and smaller countries get up for a win.

And yes, that men's road race was carnage.

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I love watching odd sports that I have no interest in otherwise. The other night my wife and I watched ping pong for over an hour! These guys hold the ball like they're doing Tai Chi, and then they throw it way up in the air and the action starts.

What other weird sports are out there to watch? Badminton is still a sport, right?

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In fact I watched Archery yesterday and it was great and entertaining, it was team competition and South Korean girls were just amazing, trap shooting was another entertainer and great drama when the Australian girl won.

Today is time for some standard sports I guess, Australian men's basketball team was great and won against Serbia and other day against France, really like the way Australians play - fast tempo, counter-attacks, team play and it's really entertaining - forget about Dream team Smile

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Just saw women's Rugby 7 final Australia v New Zealand, it's quite entertaining sport I think and would love to see some of the men's action in this sport too.

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I was surprised at how good the women's rugby players were. Obviously they show the men on TV here all the time but I have never seen the women play. One of the Australian girls with the long black hair in braids (sorry don't know any of their names) was outstanding. She caused problems every time she ran at the defence and scored the try that sealed the match in the 2nd half. I read that the Australian coaches hand picked top players from a few different sports and offered them professional contracts just to train full time and play for this team with the aim of a gold medal so perhaps we shouldn't be too surprised at the result.

Bear in mind that this is rugby sevens which is a modified form of the game (usually there are 15 players per team) that makes the game much more open and entertaining due to the wide spaces on the field. A full game of rugby can be extremely boring to watch depending on the tactics used by the teams. But in a game of sevens the only real option is to run and attack which makes for an exciting game. When the men play watch out for the New Zealand team as they are the rugby masters of the world, and the Fijians as they are sevens specialists. Australia has a shot at a medal but I would be surprised if we won gold. I'd love to see Fiji win it as they have never won a medal in any sport and rugby is their favourite national game.

I'm pretty surprised to see Australia beat Serbia at basketball. I always thought they were one of the top teams, aside from the USA of course. Maybe we have a chance of a medal. Its all about playing for silver in that sport really.

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I love watching odd sports that I have no interest in otherwise. The other night my wife and I watched ping pong for over an hour! These guys hold the ball like they're doing Tai Chi, and then they throw it way up in the air and the action starts.

What other weird sports are out there to watch? Badminton is still a sport, right?

I love watching those guys smash the ball at each other back and forth while standing 3 metres back from the table. Their skill level is incredible.

And yes, badminton starts in a couple of days I think.

Did you guys see the leader crash in the women's cycling road race? It was that bad that I thought she might be dead.

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Thanks for the Rugby lesson Ed Wink should be an excitement tournament but I doubt there will be any coverages here except for the final game like in the women’s event. I

Don't know anything, even didn't knew that the women's race had started, I'm mad about TV's who covers the games here. There are three channels here that I have reach on but on two of them which are the national TV rarely could see anything except for Tennis and Basketball. There are two more channels and I wish I've been paid for them before the games.

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Everybody has the exact same complaints here. The local broadcaster has 3 channels but they concentrate on the sports that Australia does well in. The only time you get to watch the other sports is when they don't clash with those ones. And then whenever any Australian gets anywhere near a medal or final they will show the same thing on all three channels. If you have access to a vpn or smart dns the BBC is worth trying as they have a lot of video on their iplayer.

And did I say New Zealand were the masters of world rugby? The were beaten by Japan yesterday. I am the kiss of death!

Here is the cycling crash - terrible video but its the only one I could find. No doubt the IOC is trying to take down all unapproved videos.
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Man, that video was down by the time I clicked the link.

I can't wait for Badminton. I also want to see if I can catch some handball.

We don't have cable anymore, as we use Playstation Vue for our TV alongside an OTA antenna. Unfortunately, my NBC station is fringed on distance, so my reception isn't great. Sony has done a good job of integrating some live stream NBC Rio stations for games, but it still isn't as deep with coverage as I'd like to see.

Anywhere online streaming events?

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Yes the link doesn't work for me too.

The problem here is that they are not many Bulgarians close to a medal and they are too few participating at the Olympics in general but they still coverage the events they think are the higher rated. I could watch tennis or basketball all year long but I want some badminton, table tennis ,handball, field hockey , things like that.

Didn't check about any streams because they are poor quality usually and will check only if I'm desperate to watch something.
Maybe I could try that BBC player in the next days.

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Try this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB2qBiez88A
Otherwise search youtube for something like "van vleuten crash olympics".

I've been watching USA v Australia basketball this morning. It has been a surprisingly close match but it looks like the USA are going to hold out with a minute to go and a 5 point lead. Although in basketball time that isn't as short as it sounds I suppose.

The handball has been going for a few days at least already slim. I saw a goalkeeper score from his own end the other day.

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I just watch the game too, It was more than exiting game by Australia.

They show the way all European teams should play against the States (not only but generally too)
Australian style is a lot more entertaining than this of the "Dream Team" it's a fast tempo unconventional style but out of the frame and just exiting to watch.

Don't even couldn't imagine what it would be if there wasn't the old gun Carmelo Anthony 3 pointers.

Hopefully they will get a medal cause no one deserved it more than Australia.

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Try this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB2qBiez88A

Really nasty crash Ed, I was scared about this girl when I saw it, really hope she will be fine, that was a tricky downhill although it was dry, I thought we could see some of these at men's time trial when it was really wet.
I think that's one of the reasons for Dumoulin and Froome to loose the race from Cancellara who let down really brave and of course the fact he trained all year long for this exact race.

Prayers for the Dutch girl.

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Just watched Bulgarian women's couple on badminton which loosed in strait games to the South Koreans but it's a sport dominated by the Asians and it was quite brave performance I think.

What happens in Rugby7 Ed, still not any coverages from that event here

Germany on strike today with 3 gold medals, couple of them in rowing which is the most boring sport the way competition is held, first medals after week of agony Cry i guess there's not too much events in the morning but I've remembered rowing as most annoying sport from the previous Olympics too.

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Fiji just won the rugby this morning! Its their first ever medal in the Olympics. They completely smashed Great Britain in the final by 43-7. I remembered it was on but by the time I switched on it was half time and they already lead 29-0. I'm sure BBC will have highlights or a replay as GB were in the final. My other tip New Zealand were eliminated earlier in a shock loss to Japan. For an Australian when your own team is out of the running it doesn't get much better than seeing NZ and GB get knocked out or smashed! lol

I don't mind the rowing races. It can be a bit slow but once they near the end they can have some very tight finishes with rowers about to pass out from exhaustion. If you want to talk boring events, nothing surpasses the equestrian dressage except maybe the synchronised swimming. Yawn... I'm putting myself to sleep just thinking about them.

Here is something funny I was sent. Its a video by an Aussie guy about some of the funny stuff in the Olympics so far. Be warned there is a lot of swearing.
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Haha lol
That was hilarious except for that French gymnastics’s foot there, it was really nasty.

I saw very small part of the rugby final and I wonder how team GB even got there, they were just ridiculous.

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Well he did warn you to look away! Wink

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Yeah, really Joking bu still didn't expect that.
Every time the run to the vault I have feeling something wrong will happen and apparently this time it happened.

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Some close games for the Americans at the Basketball tournament and the other teams are a lot closer to them then in previous Olympics, I think the upset is possible but let's wait and see.

Glad to see Del Potro win against Nadal, but would it be able to make a hat-trick and after Djokovic and Nadal to defeat Murray too?

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I agree, I think the U.S. basketballers are ripe to be beaten. Everyone is getting very close to them and its only going to take one bad day for them to be knocked off. Not that it's likely, but I won't be as surprised as I would have been if it happens.

I didn't see it but Murray won the tennis in the end. Did you watch the final? I liked seeing Puig beat Kerber to win the women's tennis. That was another great underdog story.

And earlier today Bolt won again, beating the chemically enhanced Gatlin who should not be running at the Olympics. He had a terrible start and was probably last after the first quarter of the race but he steam-rolled everyone in the end as usual. Thats a good sign for his chances in the 200m. He says he is going to retire next year but I hope he goes on to the next Olympics - he's only 29.

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I forgot to mention a couple of days ago the absolutely heart-breaking loss of Australia to Brazil in the women's football. The game ended 0-0 after Australia hit the cross bar with a couple of minutes to go in the 90. Eventually it went to a penalty shootout. At 4-4, the five time world player of the year Marta had her penalty saved and Australia had a spot kick to win it. It wasn't a good penalty though and Brazil's keeper made a save. It then kept going and got to 8-7 I think when she saved another and Brazil went through. It was shattering and really an epic shootout. I think its fair to say that Brazil were the better team on the day though it was a great match with plenty of drama and chances, and several good saves. It had everything.

Did anyone see the U.S. women's goalkeeper spit the dummy after they were eliminated? This is what she said about her opponents:

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"I thought we played a courageous game. I thought we had many opportunities on goal,” she said. “I think we showed a lot of heart. We came back from a goal down, I’m very proud of this team. And I also think we played a bunch of cowards. The best team did not win today, I strongly, firmly believe that.”

This woman truly gets the Olympic spirit doesn't she!

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Did anyone see the U.S. women's goalkeeper spit the dummy after they were eliminated? This is what she said about her opponents:

This woman truly gets the Olympic spirit doesn't she!

I didn't even know the results in women's competition Ed, sorry to hear about the way Australia lost the game with Brazil, maybe one of the reasons was that I had placed a bet on Australia Wink no need to mention I'm extremely unlucky in my betting lately, so not surprise to hear they hit the bar in the end.

About the American's keeper what can I say Smile
Obviously she didn't accept the loses very well but maybe sometimes is better to be honest and say what's in your mind than being kind but hypocritical in the end.

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I agree, I think the U.S. basketballers are ripe to be beaten. Everyone is getting very close to them and its only going to take one bad day for them to be knocked off. Not that it's likely, but I won't be as surprised as I would have been if it happens.

I didn't see it but Murray won the tennis in the end. Did you watch the final? I liked seeing Puig beat Kerber to win the women's tennis. That was another great underdog story.

Fully agree about US basketball team mate, did you notice nobody calls this team "Dream" any more, it happens almost naturally Joking

Yes I watched tennis final almost in full.

Del Potro has looked immensely tired in the second game Surprized of the match and I thought he has no chances but after he lost a tight first set he still continue to battle in every point and win the second one in third Murray was under control and I thought it's over, but surprise, surprise the match is best of 5 sets Joking
Those sloppy commentators Erm
Then it was clear that Del Potro didn't have the psychical shape to win in 5 although he has his chances in the 4th too. Great effort by him.

About women's final I was on the Kerber's side but maybe just because Puig didn't look like underdog at all, that girl looks to have all the shots plus physical and mental strength to be a top.....1! player I guess.

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Yesterday's Omnium in the track cycling was very entertaining, Elia Viviani the Sky sprinter wins it deservedly in the end, despite the efforts of Cavendish to kill (literally Evil ) the competition.

I Forgot to mention in the past days the brilliant Van Niekerk who smashed the world record of Michael Johnson and complitely overshadowed the win of Bolt at the 100 meters. He wasn't even amongst the top favourites in that final. Great really.

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Surprise, surprise - Brazil have smashed Honduras team on the football pitch Smile
Now they'll look for a revenge against Germany I guess although Olympic win is not exactly equal to the World Cup title Wink I'll support Germans by the way Smile

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I just watched some cross country cycling in the last day of the Olympiad and it was quite entertaining race, Sagan was nowhere near the front and I think it was strange decision to race here instead of Vuelta.

Australia - Spain in basketball was great entertainer too, sorry that the Aussies have lost the game with just a point difference in the end, really admire their style and they deserved a medal but obviously they were quite tired in the last couple of games.
Obviously the hole between US and other teams (women's too) is even bigger than before, stopped watching final game at HT, it was pointless. I don't think Americans are better as before just the level of other teams is even lower.
Volleyball tournaments were also great despite the teams I support lost their games in the last days in both man and women's tournaments.
Handball finals were also great and entertaining and Russian lady’s and Danish guys were the deserved winners, both teams played superbly.
Finally Chinese domination in badminton was broken and the Europeans shown that this sport is not only for Asians, just mostly Smile
As a whole I think it was great Olympiad and with probably just few exceptions like boxing referees ( who were ridiculous in most of the occasions) the biggest part of the sports were adorable and really entertaining.

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