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9 May 2016 - 10:53pm

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Since we have EPL and CL topics all ready I thought it could be a good idea to have one thread for all of the other top (or not) domestic football leagues.

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29 September 2016 - 9:48pm
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Whatever the rules are there's have to be some willingness from the authorities to watch after the followings of it, on paper everything could look either bad or good but sometimes you could appreciate if some of this changes would work only if they been implemented I think.
Also I like the idea of some fixed number of local players on the field, let's say at least 3 which would somewhat even teams I guess, yes I know there are many ways for the clubs to past around that and 3 locals is too small number to have enough influence but if you ask me this number should be 5 or 6 trough whole the time on the field.
By local players I don't mean only players who are from the respective nationality but also could be anyone raised in your youth academy no matter the nationality or any youth academy in the country.

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3 October 2016 - 9:49pm
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Celta once again do all the damage to Barcelona after last season when they beat them 4-0 or 4-1, anyway it was another 4 goals performance and after Real another failure ( they've had 4 draws in a row!) it looks to be a tight season at least for now.
Atletico is always there amongst the top teams and who knows it might be their year...I just hoping Smile

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7 October 2016 - 12:28am
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Yeah and who else tore them apart but the worst corner taker in history, former Liverpool man Iago Aspas. Have you ever seen his famous corner? Liverpool down 1-0 to Chelsea, 92nd minute, Schwarzer pulling off a great save and they get a corner and they need a good one. Up steps Aspas...

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7 October 2016 - 10:06pm
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Yeah I see what you mean Ed,
first of all I hate when such players trying been smart asses on the set plays when they take shots or some fancy passes when all the team is in the penalty box expecting a cross. Tallest guys usually central defs sometimes sprinting 60-70 meters to the opposite box expecting a cross and you making something stupid like that.
In Aspas case against Chelsea he took a wrong decision even when decided not to take the cross when the game is on the card, nerves all over the place and all the players on the field are in Chelsea penalty box so every scramble could end in the back of the net, and I won't even comment his execution.

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9 October 2016 - 11:37pm
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Yeah that a professional footballer could do something so bad still makes me laugh! lol

So no domestic leagues this week with all the world cup qualifiers. I looked up Bulgaria's results and saw that they are in an extremely tough group and didn't do well against France. How do you think they will do against Sweden?

Australia had a 2-2 draw away to Saudi Arabia which all things considered is a pretty good result. But Australia were 2-1 up with about 10 minutes to play so its not so great. We have a huge game here tomorrow night between Aus and Japan which is always a great match.

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10 October 2016 - 6:04pm
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Good luck to Australia next game, I don't know if Saudi Arabia draw is so good result because Australia was a clear favourite according the bookies, anyway hopefully they'll doing well against Japan which beat us 6 or 7-1 not so long ago in a friendly, they are a very good team.
Bulgaria reach the bottom few years back and now the just digging in it, there is a new manager and they trying renovate the squad in the last few years, so it's expected that the results won't be good with so young players but the problem is the few experienced one's still in squad playing worst than the youngsters and one or two suppose to be a "stars" lol
There are so many youngsters lately that I don't even heard about half of them because didn't even watch the Bulgarian League. With Sweden being maybe the team against which we have the worst record!! generally I don't expect anything good, they weren't so good lately so I don't expect to blown us but maybe 2-0, 3-1 something similar, Bulgarian team is unpredictable in this very moment I think.

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10 October 2016 - 11:57pm
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I think people underestimate how difficult it is for European based players to travel to the middle east and play in draining 30+ heat against teams that are very comfortable in those conditions. A draw there is a good result as the middle eastern teams don't travel well and don't play anywhere near their best away from home. Everyone will see how hard it is in a few years when the ridiculous world cup is held in Qatar.

You were almost right on with your call about Bulgaria (3-0 to Sweden). They are going to need a miracle to qualify from that group.

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Everyone will see how hard it is in a few years when the ridiculous world cup is held in Qatar.

I thought it will be held when is a winter there Joking

So maybe the temperature will be just in the low 30's not in the higher end Joking Thumb Up

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You were almost right on with your call about Bulgaria (3-0 to Sweden). They are going to need a miracle to qualify from that group.

Joking If it wasn't a so close miss that would be the only result I would guess right in the last month mate Joking
I don't think anyone is ever thought about qualifying Ed Joking , even when they knew the draw 4 years back Joking

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16 October 2016 - 4:15pm
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Real Betis 1-6 Real Madrid
Atlético Madrid 7-1 Granada CF
FC Barcelona 4-0 Deportivo La Coruña

What's wrong with these teams I don't know suddenly all started scoring like crazy Smile

SSC Napoli 1-3 AS Roma

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so now what, Roma will be the new Juventus pursuer I don't know if any Thumb Down

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Sydney FC 4-0 Central Coast Mariners

I guess you're very happy with that result Ed Thumb Up did you been to this game?

I saw the guy you mentioned...Bobo is amongst the scorers Thumb Up and a guy named Holosko scored two, sound like a Czechs or Slovaks name.

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Yeah a good weekend for the 3 strongest teams in Spain. I guess they got sick of not winning for a couple of weeks.

I am happy with that Sydney result and yes I did go to the game. They have won both their first two games of the season 4-0 which is about as good a start as you could ask for. Central Coast are hopeless though, so I'm not reading too much into it. Filip Holosko is from Slovakia. He played for a long time in Turkey and had a few seasons with Bobo, so its looking like smart recruitment to put 2 players together who know each other well.

If you knew Sydney FC you would know how strange it sounds to hear the words "smart recruitment" in the same sentence as that team!

Tim Cahill played his first professional game in the Australian league over the weekend too and as he does now and then he scored a screamer...
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Thanks for moving the posts Ed Thumb Up

Yes really wonderful goal from Cahill..a screamer Surprized Even wasn't keeper's fault he doesn't been so far ahead of his goal just the shot was perfect, Cahill just made the perfect contact with the ball in the right time, could watch that goal all day long.
Glad for your team Ed, no matter the opponents I guess couple of 4-0 wins are always a booster and certainly means something especially in a so close league like the Australian.

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Milan defeated Juventus this week so maybe we could have something of a race this season in Italy...at last, although that's not certain at all.

Another tough weekend for the leading teams in Spain, both Barcelona and Real won their games (maybe even lucky) in the end, not exact the same luck for Atleico though, they lost to Sevilla who are second now.

Another day another win for Bayern in Bundesliga but the strange thing there is that the newbie Leipzig is in second place without a loss in 8 games since the start.
Nice win for your Eintracht away Ed, they still sitting in the better half of the standings Thumb Up

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Just saw "yours" Sydney won again Ed, congrats Thumb Up
Probably been quite tricky (lucky I don't know ) result because I saw the goal had been scored deep in the stoppage time?
I bet you love seeing that, enjoy Smile

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I saw Barcelona score a ridiculous goal where Messi smashed it low straight at Suarez who was about 2m offside, but he jumped in the air and the ball went under his feet and into the goal. The referee awarded it because apparently standing in between the shot and the goalkeeper and jumping at the last second is not what he considers to be interfering with play. Messi was also very lucky with the winning penalty that the keeper got very close to saving.

How about Feyenoord? They had a draw with Ajax on the weekend with the male model himself Dirk Kuyt getting a later equaliser. That makes it 9 games, 8 wins, 1 draw. They are killing it at the moment.

Sydney FC got very lucky. They scored a very later winner but earlier Wellington had a goal ruled out for a very debatable offside call and in general neither team played very well and it wasn't a great game. Still a win is a win! Sydney's game in two weeks is against the usually strong Melbourne Victory, so we'll have a better idea of how good they really are after that.

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25 October 2016 - 12:36am
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Didn't saw Barcelona goals but from your comments it seems they've been really lucky to win.

I don't remember Feyenord winning the league in my life time so I hope they could do it his season, certainly looking capable, to be honest didn't even thought Dirk Kuyt still playing, how old he is, 40?

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Yeah Barcelona were quite lucky I think. Dirk Kuyt is getting on but he's only 36, so not quite 40 yet! He's still scoring loads of goals. Feyenoord are coached by Giovanni van Bronckhorst who is another blast from the past.

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Yes I remember Van Bronchorst, he was a fine player, I've had always been a Netherlands fan since 1988, Gulit and Van Basten times when they win the Euro championship.
So Kuyt is a youngster then, (I'm older Thumb Down) he only looks to be 40 yo Joking

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To be fair, its an easy mistake to make. Kuyt looked like he was 40 when he was 23. lol

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To be fair, its an easy mistake to make. Kuyt looked like he was 40 when he was 23. lol

Ha-ha lol

That was exactly what I meant Ed, just been too lazy to wrote it in full...in the end great minds really do think alike Wink I think his haircut never been chanced since the 90's and that's big part of the problem Joking

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Saw that Sydney still going strong Ed, another win and combined with a clean sheet too, you must be delighted Smile

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Yes another good win, but again playing against one of the weaker teams. They have a tough run of games coming up over the next month. We'll see how they go then. The media is reporting that a Dutch club NAC Breda is trying to sign Sydney's coach Graham Arnold which could be interesting if it happens.

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I'm not sure Sydney should releasing their present coach after that great start, more so NAC Breda is not amongst the top teams in Holland so I guess the money wouldn't be so great, of course if he looks at that as an opportunity for a "bigger clubs" job they might reckon to his willing.

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The coach Graham Arnold used to play for NAC back in the 90s I think. So he has connections with the club. In fact I just looked it up and he scored 35 goals in 63 games for them so maybe its no surprise that they like him.

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Yes he probably would be willing to return there if his has been so successful as a player there, probably had a few great memories too but that's not a good thing for your team Ed, I guess I don't know

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So what about Leipzig in Germany Confused After 10 games they are equal at the top with Bayern Surprized and we could have a race this season Vicious

Your's Sydney keeps winning Ed Thumb Up just 5 games in, but I guess It couldn't get much better than that... Wink

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Yes I went to the game on Saturday night. Its always a good game between Sydney and Melbourne, always goals and controversy. Sydney won 2-1, but Melbourne missed a penalty and another simple chance and Sydney got away with a blatant handball in the lead-up to their first goal. So it was a fortunate win but anything that upsets Melbourne coach and all round scumbag Kevin Muscat is fine by me.

Have you heard about Leipzig? They call themselves R.B. Leipzig with the R.B. supposedly standing for RasenBallsport (a German word for sporting club or something) but everyone knows that it is meant to mean Red Bull which created and owns the club. They weren't allowed to use Red Bull in the name so they came up with this cheeky workaround and they have also somehow gotten around the German rules about fans needing to own a certain percentage of the club. They are the most hated club in Germany due to this and the way they have basically bought their way into the top division. They were only just promoted this season. Of course I'm sure over many years other clubs have done that but people forget these things after enough time has passed.

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Sound like a really fortunate win for your team ED, the bad thing about fortune is that she could changing quite suddenly.

No, I didn't knew all this things about Rasen Ballsport Leipzig Joking
It seemed strange to me that they are RB Leipzig because I didn't remembered this name from before, I think they were just Leipzig before, anyway I won't hate them about because of these two letters in front of their name, in the end in other sports it's not only allowed but is even a pretty usual thing when you find a new sponsor and that sometimes happen every season.
Not that I want to see Red Bull - Johnnie Walker game for example Joking although that could be quite good....game Wink but the football clubs are kind of disadvantaged maybe that they couldn't change their names according to their sponsor.
Let me a little note here Ed, I doubt that any club is close to Bayern Munich for the "more hated" prize in Germany but I could agree that probably RB is second "best"...just like in the standings Smile

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Actually I think RBL have taken the crown from Bayern. Dortmund fans refuse to go to their games and supporters of another team even threw a real bull's head on to the ground at one game. Even though they are not liked I think most fans would grudgingly admit that they prefer Bayern due to their long tradition of the football club. This is a good read about RBL:
How RB Leipzig became the most hated club in German football

I can understand it but I don't really agree with the hatred. Like you say sponsorship is normal in most other countries and the club may have been created artificially in a very short time, but so what, no-one is forcing you to support them. They spent a lot of money and while I don't like the way the game has gone in that way either, what are they supposed to do? Only spend a small amount until they make it to the big league then spend big like everyone else? Whats the difference between these guys and Bayer Leverkusen apart from Bayer being an older club?

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Yes agreed they are maybe the most hated club in Germany now, after reading that I still can't understand why is that, yes they don't have the history or traditions but since when "commercial" is a dirty world in football I don't know
For sure it's not not after Man City spent those billions, it changed the whole idea of what you could buy with money.
I think the whole idea and organization in the German football is wrong after I read for this 50+1 rule which is not even logical to me and maybe it's the main problem. After things been that way for many years I understand fans but yes Wolfsburg, Bayer Leverkuzen and one or two othher clubs have the same structure and sponsorship without being exposed.
The money itself don't promise success and it's needed a lot of work in the right way before that so there's nothing certain, RB Zaltsburg is not a dominant force any more even in a lot weaker championship like the Austrian.
For me the problem is that with that system the huge sponsors couldn't be part of the most clubs management and of course that won't make them invest enough and Bayern will keep dominating in the German football, obviously the changes are needed.

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