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29 May 2020 - 1:54am

NetEnt adjustable RTP games to watch out for

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A few months ago we reported that Net Entertainment would be rolling out adjustable RTP versions of some of their games. This means that operators are able to change the RTP of a game to a lower or even higher (yeah right, who are they kidding) setting than the default. In most cases the operator can choose from 8 different settings with a roughly 1% difference between each.

So far these are the games that you need to watch out for:

  • Butterfly Staxx: 90 - 99.1%, default 96.8%.
  • Fruit Shop: 90.1 - 99.1%, default 96.7%.
  • Guns n' Roses: 90.1 - 99.1%, default 97%.
  • Reel Rush: 90.1 - 99.1%, default 97%.
  • Starburst: 90.1 - 99.1%, default 96.1%.
  • Twin Spin: 91.1 - 99.1%, default 96.6%.

I'd be especially wary of Starburst as it is NetEnt's most popular game, so it will be ripe for exploitation by greedy casinos.

How can you tell what the current setting is? Look for the game help button, which is on the bottom left if you're playing a desktop version of the game, or in the game menu for mobile versions. This should bring up a page detailing the rules and how to play the game, and the RTP setting should be specified there. If you find the RTP has been lowered, take your money elsewhere and you might as well let the casino know why you are doing so when you do.

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29 May 2020 - 6:29am
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where you got this information from Ed ?

i posted this at a german forum a few month ago and
had a hell of discusion if it is true or not... etc

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29 May 2020 - 6:37am
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Oh this is very true. We know, straight from the horse's mouth... NetEnt. We have pdf documents published by NetEnt for their customers that show the payout rates at the different settings.

Here is an example.

butterfly-staxx-rtp-sheet.png

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30 May 2020 - 4:29am
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Imagine playing 92% RTP slots 🔥💰🔥

The first thing I do whenever I play a new game is Google the RTP. Anything under 96% is an insta-quit for me (with the exception of progressives).

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30 May 2020 - 5:48am
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Matthew wrote:

Imagine playing 92% RTP slots 🔥💰🔥

The first thing I do whenever I play a new game is Google the RTP. Anything under 96% is an insta-quit for me (with the exception of progressives).

you are absolutely right matthew ... i go a little higher ... 96.3-96.5% is the lower limit for me.
try slotcatalog.com matthew ... the largest RTP database I could find so far

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30 May 2020 - 1:18pm
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90% payout, yikes. Should be criminal for online casinos with such lower overhead to have such awful return.

At least they're being transparent by listing the RTP in the rules. I'd like to see that same transparency at physical casinos.

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31 May 2020 - 3:11pm
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No more Net Ent for me. Red Tiger and clearly adjustable too. Just nonsense all this - makes a mockery of the whole 'slots aren't rigged' thing that most people believe. I won't be playing any net ent or red tiger anymore. Nor will I play at any casino I find out is using anything but default RTPs on their slots; e.g. VideoSlots.

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Is there a way to go into the paytables or something to see what RTP you're playing with? Seems like something that should have to be prominently shown if you're playing with anything less than the default RTP.

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Guess who didn't read all the original post?

CL-Ed wrote:

How can you tell what the current setting is? Look for the game help button, which is on the bottom left if you're playing a desktop version of the game, or in the game menu for mobile versions. This should bring up a page detailing the rules and how to play the game, and the RTP setting should be specified there. If you find the RTP has been lowered, take your money elsewhere and you might as well let the casino know why you are doing so when you do.

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2 June 2020 - 4:33pm
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Haha, I went to vomvom's post initially. Busted. 🙂

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Not only do they have lower RTP options for the older games, they are also offering it for their new releases, like Fruit Shop megaways- something to pay attention to.

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Oh, this could get worse.

Let's see what happens next, after NetEnt is acquired by Evolution...

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I don't think that will change much for Netent slots since Evolution buying Netent ensured end of life for Netent Live. But as far as I have seen, Netent games offer to their newer games several rtp options.

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I think that without doubt over time all of their games will offer these options to their casino customers. Unfortunately you're just going to have to double check the setting every time you play.

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CL-Ed Many casinos have had access to the RTP% option changes since Videoslots where exposed and that's well before Covis occured.
I have previously commented on the very poor Netent and exceptionally bad Red Tiger RTP%
As you have mentioned the tide is out to trusting casinos when it comes to honest profiteering .
I cannot bring myself to deposit and play any Netent game.
Today I given 50 free Netent 💩Twin spin free games due to being short payed by mistake . $3.61 collected for 50 free spins. 💩
This is currently typical of Netent free spins currently.
I LOVE EVOLUTION so am hoping they shake the industry and fix Netent.

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i stopped playing netent games a few month ago...and red tiger games are out of
the game for me since...since ever...play 'n go games as well. some times i play
book of dead but only at casinos with mga licence because they
don't allow this low rtp`s at all.

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vomvom12 sorry to inform you BUT I stopped playing all MGA casinos as they all had a common theme Terrible RTPs% in Netent and probably by now every other game supplier may of opted for the various casinos to have control of their game RTP%.
I do have 1 MGA casino I play Evolution live casino games at and nothing else.
The Curacao site I played at NEVER would I play Netent games.

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This is the main reason I avoid RTG casinos since I learned that they give thier operators the option to adjust a slots RTP at will and to thier liking , I hardly play Netent slots anymore anyway , and I Echo Reklessbets comment that it would be great if land based casinos were as transparent

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I currently have a review pending for earlier this week regarding very poor RTP% regarding Playtech on their live game Buffalo game .Playtech claim the time I played for 2-3 hours their RTP% was 95%-96% which is and was impossible as during this time their was only 2 free spins 1 set of spins paid $0 nothing and the other paid $3.00 total + during this time 2-3 hours very very few collects were bigger than my wager. Their are or was at least 2000- 2500 players playing. many max betting for a hours + losing a lot of Euros.
The casino controlling this game is one of the big boys and Playtech being their cash cow it is very likely they will find no problems with RTP%💩
However this casino has lost me as a client player etc along with being a supporter of 💩Playtech live games

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I completely understand your frustration but at the same time games sometimes run cold, especially volatile ones. So just because the game has a certain RTP doesn't mean you can expect certain % of your bets back.

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I believe RTP% were introduced by game providers to provide some fairness to players.
The introduction of game providers supplying casinos with this control has changed the industry.
A casino will never place players interests ahead of its own profiteering .

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I'm not sure you understand cableway. RTP is not a mechanism or control in the game. It is a mathematical estimate of the return that the game will payout over time, which is determined by the position of symbols on the reels, the amount for a winning payout, and any bonus rounds or extra features. It also is not a guarantee, but a number that the game's payouts will tend towards over a long period of time - i.e. millions or even billions of spins.

I guess the phrase "adjustable RTP" is a bit of a misnomer. It isn't the RTP itself that is being adjusted, it is one or more of those things described above that is being changed and that results in a difference in that number. For example to lower the RTP they may remove a higher paying symbol from one of the reels to make its combination less likely to hit, or reduce the amount a certain combination pays out, or reduce the frequency of a randomly triggered bonus round.

This is not a new thing. Land casinos around the world have been doing this for decades. In fact if you went to Vegas you and a friend could sit down at two identical machines right next to each other and be unknowingly playing the same game set to different payout rates. As online players we have been fortunate that many of the older suppliers chose to only offer games with a single configuration. Unfortunately these days that is no longer the case so you have to make sure to check each and every time you play.

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Thank you for this comment Ed. I fully agree with you and I think sometimes people get confused with the RTP meaning. As you said, RTP is something that's theoretical and is calculated within billions of spins. But I also think that good casinos won't go below the 94% mark as it just seems way too low.

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So blck who replies to almost every listing without a thought of what players are really mentioning

So when Game providers like Netent etc set RTP% at 97% and 98% and Then allow casinos to set new ones at 92-94% you agree with them? Get some ideas and brains of your own.👎
I have a clear understanding of RTP all I am stating is casinos should never have the ability to change the RTP% of any game as they only lookout for their own interests in making money.
For example Playtech will give you via the casino you play at the RTP% say of their live Buffalo game .It will be 96% and without free spins you will not win at all.
There being no jackpot they cannot delete what is not available so reducing the free spins and buffalos available is there only way of reducing RTP% and players collecting to much..

As the game is 24/7 and 10 sessions per 24 hours with 2500+ players partaking on and off most of the 24/7 time frame. A lot of money is deposited
1-8 sessions can be horrible and still show your RTP% to be 95% -96%
However 1 session with free spins could be well over the 100%+ if you are lucky.
1 x 4 hour session of play at a given value will be at 96%
Net result you need to be lucky playing live Playtech early on and leave quickly.

As for your comment good casinos don't go below 94% try looking up most of the MGA casinos

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I absolutley agree with you.

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Please try to keep things polite and respectful cableway. There is no need for personal insults.

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I reply to everything without a thought of what players think? That's an interesting thought. Besides no need for comments like "get brain of your own" - haven't done anything to you to hear such comments. Besides I actually have experience in not only gambling but also working in the industry so I do understand how games work.

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I am frustrated with your aimless replies if you feel annoyed apologies

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@ cableway20878

I think you keep talking about the rtp% of your last session ... wherever you got the rtp value (slottracker or what ever). apart from adjustable rtp's, the value of your session can and will differ from the value given by the provider! because the rtp value of your last session only refers to the ... let's say 1000 spins you made and not to a million or more from which the official value of the provider results ...
It would be interesting where you get the rtp value you are referring to. Some casinos like videoslots.com show such values that are mostly completely wrong.

anyway...and there are this games (all of us has some special ones) with this dream
stats such as bloodsuckers rtp: 98% varianz: low.
It doesn't really get any better, but I still can't remember a singel session after which I had more money than at the beginning of the session.

btw: casino can't change anything that can only be done by the provider...😉😎

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vomvom12 have you missed a sentence or 2 of late regarding game providers and Casinos.
The game providers have given the Casinos the access to RTP% In other words modify/change/alter/lower/eliminate the top prize or 2/free spins. etc.
So in short for example your bloodsuckers game rtp 98% at whatever casino you usually play at may not be the same as the casino has control not the provider.
Be lucky playing😉

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