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CL-Ed maybe with so many new on -line Casinos appearing and older Casino's changing ownership we have a clear message for all players outlining why any player should review this clause.
1 What licence or licences if any does this casino have
2/are they accredited eCOGRA
3/do we rate MGA as a B rate ? why!
4/Curacao (worthless) licence (1 star max)
Personally I myself have lost $20000usa + in one occasion. ( Only once)
There is no better feeling of success than having just hit a $25,000 win betting no bigger than $5.00
I was at the time unaware of playing a casino whom did not have a legal licence . I can assure all evil thoughts come into play when you realize a casino is not going to pay out your winnings of 25K because they are a casino without a legit licence.
If you play an unlicensed Casino there is NO protection and next to no hope of ever seeing your winnings.
Or state clearly without a legit licence or accreditation we recommend you avoid playing this Casino.
Good Luck all
In the review section on the site, there's usually a section where you can find the gaming license information. There's also a spot in many of the reviews where they go into the license details, including noting that a Costa Rica or Curacao license is basically useless, while a Malta or UK license will give you a real voice in the event of a dispute.
You're right though, casino sites do need to make that info known to players, as it sucks to have your winnings stolen by a rogue joint.
I am sorry to hear about your bad experience.
Just take it as a hard learned lesson and move on, man.
Players have to take time to make a real money deposit, hanging around good casino forums like CasinoListings.
Hi Coolsongss back when this occurred I was a rookie online casino player whom had transposed from land casinos to online and could not believe any casino could operate this way. One learns quickly.
Being a lucky player I learned quickly to review at the time casinos whom had bad history and try to avoid the ratbags.
Casino listing is a good forum I only wish I had noticed earlier on the good work they do to expose SOME of the not so good to play Casinos.
I think everyone whom has played needs to remember when they first hooked into online casinos did they know that many casinos operate without legit licenses. (by playing a real online license holder you have an experienced voice in a dispute for you )
There are a number of rogue casinos on line.
Up in the top menu under the casinos tab we have the following item: Casinos by licensing jurisdiction.
Linked on that page we have information for some of the most common jurisdictions and we roughly segregate them into three classes. There is also information on what to do if you have a dispute with a casino in those jurisdictions (where possible).
The main problem is that the average punter isn't aware that there are real licenses and there are "licenses", the latter being worthless rubber stamps that are there only to project a false image of accountability. The casinos with the faux licenses are happy to put a seal on their site that looks all official and tell everyone "look, we're officially licensed".
That is a hard problem to solve. We do our best to try to educate people but we only reach a tiny minority of potential players. Really the ones who need to clean this sort of thing up are the corrupt jurisdictions that allow criminals to trade under their banner with their backing.
If I was a member of parliament in Curacao for example I would be ashamed of some of the stuff going on under my country's name and would be doing my best to clean up the industry. But as is the case with so many things, the reality is that money is more important than people on the other side of the world that you never have to deal with getting ripped off.
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i understand this , are we perhaps better to follow many other conventions and have a green tick say=Casino Listings; hallmark of recommendation.
Red tick = a non recommendation
All I am trying to relay is somehow to make the distinction between the real licenses and the Curacao type licensees
The red and green tick could well catch on as an easyier way to identify quickly rogue casinos or at least warn players to be careful where they are depositing their funds and why.
We already try to do that with our reviews. If you look at the "At a glance" section we list a number of ticks and crosses and we usually make sure one of those relates to the licensing jurisdiction.
A couple of examples from recently published reviews:
El Royale Casino - "[CROSS] Curacao licensed, no player protection"
Kassu Casino - "[TICK] Licensed in the UK, Malta, and Sweden"
Granted there are probably still some older reviews where we don't have these positive and negatives but we always list the licensing jurisdiction in the intro or text of the review.
I realize this section but it is the last part one reads in my view.
what is the main difference between UKGC and MGA (cost, or disclosure of activities)So can or does any MGA Casino have eGOGRA accreditation or is this only for UKGA Casinos.
eCOGRA has nothing to do with either Malta or UKGC. It is a third party organisation that audits and accredits casinos, but has no regulatory power over them. Many years ago there were a lot of casinos that had eCOGRA accreditation (mainly Microgaming software) but there seems to be fewer these days, probably because of the emergence of proper regulators. Malta or UKGC regulated casinos can gain their accreditation.
If a casino wants to legally accept UK customers it needs a UKGC license. Malta is often used as the de facto "European license" by casinos that need or wanted to be licensed in the EU. They have different policies and requirements. The UKGC seems to be far more aggressive in regulation of operators.
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