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I am asking this because I don't know and I really want to know how to find it.
The other day, I saw a post about it, searching around, but can't reach it again.
It was not difficult, but very useful.
I play Play N'Go often, but some casinos do not include RTPs in the game guide pages, so I want to check it before playing.
Yes, but that is only possible if the developer of the game discloses the number in one of the files that your browser downloads to play the game. Play'n Go is the only provider I know of that does that. For the vast majority of developers this would not happen because the games have a fixed payout rate and can't be changed.
Would you like me to post how to check it for Play'n Go?
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Oh, I see, CL-Ed
I would be thankful it you post how to check it.
Ok so lets use one of the Play'n Go games on this site as an example.
1. Open a new blank tab in your browser.
2. Open the developer tools on that page. You can do this by right clicking and selecting Inspect in the menu that pops up.
3. Switch to the Network tab in the developer tools. This is where you will see all the files that your browser loads while you are on the page.
4. Make sure the little red recording button is set to on, and you have the Preserve log option ticked.
5. Copy this link to open the game Contact and paste it into the address bar of the blank tab and start to load the page.
6. You should see the Network tab in the developer tools fill up with lists of files and requests as the page loads.
7. Wait for the game to finish loading and the screen with the continue button appears (you may have to agree to our 18+ message first).
8. In the Network tab of the developer tools, click the little Search button which looks like a magnifying glass.
9. Type "<RTP" in the search box and hit enter, then with any luck you should see reference to a file that has the RTP setting for the game in it.
In this case we can see that the game made a request that returned a response with the following line in it:
57 "<custom><RTP Value=\"94\" /></custom>"
You can do this at any site that has Play'n Go games. And you only want to be playing Play'n Go games that return 96% - which is the default setting.
Unfortunately for us as they are demo versions we have no control over what they are set to. I was actually surprised to find that the game was running at lower than the default setting because I checked a few a while ago and they were all 96%. You would think they would set their demo games to the highest possible RTP.
Did you manage to find it? I'm unsure if my instructions were easy to follow or not.
Hi, CL-Ed, I just followed your instructions and found the RTPs easily.
This process is much easier than what I saw a few days ago!!!
Thank you much 👍 😀
Oh, I just checked in Bitstarz the Tome of Madness and Reactoonz, the RTPs are both 94%!!!
No wonder losing only 🙂
Do they disclose the RTP in the help file? If not, that would be a big warning sign without even needing to check using the dev tools.
As CL-Ed said, I also only know how to check Play'n Go RTP using the inspect-network tool. Haven't seen this scrip for other providers but could be wrong.
Thx for this post this is super interesting info, @Ed could you possibly post a link or send me a pm on some info to learn the basics of the developer options you have mastered general tips and tricks would be appreciated Im trying to learn the basics, I know my reply to this post isn't really related to what I'm asking so sorry in advance
Yeah I also find it very interesting, the first time I tried to check Play'n Go RTPs it was interesting when I saw an example of a casino showcasing completely different RTP than the game was actually running on.
Lambino probably your best option is to go through the docs at Google itself.
Its not going to be particularly useful for other casino games as all the important stuff happens on the server where you can't see what is happening. Now that people know where to find this info for Play'n Go games don't be surprised if it disappears shortly.
Yeah I wouldn't be too surprised about it either, especially in cases where casinos decide to showcase incorrect RTPs.
In the first place, Play N'Go crossed the line that RTP is fixed in slots.
They broke the most important rule.
I think that UKGC and MGA have to investigate this issue in terms of player protection and fair play etc.
NetEnt will be re-releasing some of their games this month with adjustable RTPs, ranging from around 90% up to 99% for some new release exclusive titles. You can expect that there will be operators that lower the return on their games soon.
Now, NetEnt is showing the RTP in the game help page, easy to find.
If they provide adjustable RTP to casinos, RTPs have to be shown on the loading page instead of any commercials which are said to be planned by NetEnt, so that players can just play or switch to other games by seeing RTP in the first place!!! 🙂
Yeah, that would be nice but I don't think its going to happen. Play'n Go games were supposed to show their RTP in the help files too, but as we have all discovered some casinos are able to hide them. Let's hope that NetEnt at least makes the display of that data mandatory.
Off topic a bit, but with all of these RTP changes, now Netent offering to lower them too, makes me think I won't be playing online much anymore.
Yeah I totally understand. These companies are certainly prioritising short term gain over long term sustainability. They are in danger of killing the goose that laid the golden egg, so to speak.
But that seems to be typical of human nature in so many other issues these days, right?
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