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17 September 2017 - 1:11pm

Which software would be better in terms of RTP between RTG and WGS ?

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These days, I don't play RTG slots often, because the RTP and overall winnings have been very bad for me.
I don't know how you feel about RTG and how you are doing with RTG Smile

So, I am thinking that I would switch to WGS casinos, like Red Stag, Miami, or Liberty, etc.

Do you think that WGS slots are as good as RTG in terms of line wins, free spins, multipliers, and some special features like stacked wilds, etc ?

Please, recommend some good slots of WSG with potentials for high wins.

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17 September 2017 - 11:56pm
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The problem is neither of these providers report their RTP settings and none of the operators publish payout audits so you have no easy way of knowing. We know from old documents that RTG used to have three RTP settings and likely still does, but WGS is a bit of a mystery.

You might recognise some of the WGS games from other casinos as they were made by the NextGen gaming and presumably licensed to WGS years ago - eg Fat Cat, or Doctor Love. A couple that I like are Grail Maiden and The Reel Deal which has a "Deal or no Deal" bonus round in it. I quite like WGS blackjack and other table games. They can be played super quick, the rules are decent, and I've won quite a bit on them in the past.

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19 September 2017 - 10:22pm
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I haven't done any special research but I think that WGS have better payout potential. I am still sticking with MG and Netent.

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25 September 2017 - 9:34am
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Hey guys, I was looking for some more info on this and I found that Intertops (RTG) is publishing audits of their payout rates. I think they are currently the only RTG casino to do so. Here are their latest published numbers from June, showing that they most likely have most of their slots set at the standard middle RTG setting which is believed to be about 95%.

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Live Blackjack - 100.68%
Craps - 99.62%
Video Poker - 98.04%
BlackJack - 97.83%
Baccarat - 97.77%
Texas Hold'em Bonus Poker - 97.59%
MultiHand Video Poker - 97.41%
Tri-Card Poker - 97.34%
Pai Gow Poker - 96.90%
Caribbean Stud - 94.95%
Caribbean Hold'em - 94.92%
Roulette - 94.87%
Slots - 94.58%
Real-Series Video Slots - 94.39%
Let Em Ride - 94.14%
Roulette Multiplayer - 88.61%
Keno - 88.49%
Other games combined - 80.49%
All games combined* - 95.96%

* Other games combined - includes Bonus Bingo, Roaring Twenties Bingo, Caribbean Draw, European Slot Poker, Caribbean Stud Progressive, Let Em Ride Progressive, Caribbean Hold'em Progressive, Caribbean Draw Progressive, Live Blackjack, Red Dog, 5 Diamond Blackjack, Magic 7s, Lucky 8's, Hot Dice, Treasure Tree, Sic Bo, Cleopatras Gold, Goldbeard, Enchanted Garden, Crystal Waters, Achilles, Coyote Cash, Pay Dirt, T Rex, Loose Caboose, Texan Tycoon, Triple Twister, Naughty Or Nice, White Rhino and War.

Note there are a few popular RTG slots in that "other games combined" category. I don't know why they aren't included in the other ones.

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14 November 2017 - 9:21pm
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CL-Ed wrote:

Hey guys, I was looking for some more info on this and I found that Intertops (RTG) is publishing audits of their payout rates. I think they are currently the only RTG casino to do so. Here are their latest published numbers from June, showing that they most likely have most of their slots set at the standard middle RTG setting which is believed to be about 95%.

Note there are a few popular RTG slots in that "other games combined" category. I don't know why they aren't included in the other ones.

Thanks for your information, why RTG changing thats all payouts? This is good information for me. Thanks you very much.

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15 November 2017 - 12:38am
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I will say that WMS doesn't seem to limit game/bonus winnings like RTG does on their slots, which has always seemed strange and annoying to me. Perhaps that makes them slightly less volatile?

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15 November 2017 - 8:35am
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coolsongss wrote:

These days, I don't play RTG slots often, because the RTP and overall winnings have been very bad for me.
I don't know how you feel about RTG and how you are doing with RTG Smile

So, I am thinking that I would switch to WGS casinos, like Red Stag, Miami, or Liberty, etc.

Do you think that WGS slots are as good as RTG in terms of line wins, free spins, multipliers, and some special features like stacked wilds, etc ?

Please, recommend some good slots of WSG with potentials for high wins.

Thanks Smile

Hi coolsongss, I actually do not really like the games from RTG and WGS, but maybe just a few of their games that I'm really interested in playing, if in RTG I choose games that have 50 paylines or more, like triple twisters, bubble bubble, sweet 16, and many more others,
And for WGS I just love some of the games they have, I like games with 1 paylines, I think in this WGS game that I think is very victorious, like "triple 10x wild", pay day, golden triple, and still many more, WGS has many games with 1 paylines, that's what I like about them

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15 November 2017 - 8:50am
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I definitely choose RTG and some of these weeks I love ii,thanks Ed for information RTG audit,praised Ed for always providing detailed information Thumb Up

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15 November 2017 - 10:44pm
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I will say that WMS doesn't seem to limit game/bonus winnings like RTG does on their slots, which has always seemed strange and annoying to me. Perhaps that makes them slightly less volatile?

This is a good point. A lot of RTG games have a maximum win limit so if you hit a re-triggering bonus round that seems like it can go on forever, it will stop once you reach the limit. I'm not sure how or if it affects the variance because its a hard upper limit which could otherwise be implemented using the reels and symbols like other slots. At a guess I would say that I don't think it really makes a difference as they are game rules set in stone and thus are already factored into the RTP.

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16 November 2017 - 1:45pm
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Reckless Bets wrote:

I will say that WMS doesn't seem to limit game/bonus winnings like RTG does on their slots, which has always seemed strange and annoying to me. Perhaps that makes them slightly less volatile?

What that really? I am never playing WMS and i am not interesting with RTG. And bunesess in RTG i am nit interesting, i think it is too hard for me to clearing wagering in RTG games. Every day i am just playing Net'ent, playtech and microgaming. May be the next time i will explore WMS game. Thanks for your information Reckless

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