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30 July 2016 - 6:09pm

Getting Paid is now Harder for US Players

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I took a break from playing at casinos a couple of months ago. When I resumed playing this month, I noticed that things have changed for the worst for winning US players.

It seems that there are few payment processors now. As a result, one payment processor in particular will not take payment from a casino for a winning player, if that processor has already delivered a check to that player during the same week. It does not matter whether the delivered check came from a different casino.

This week, for example, I have three separate casinos that had to reverse their authorization for payment because the processor stated that it had already delivered a check to me from a different casino and that it would not take any other check until next week.

As a result, casino checks that usually took only a few days to be delivered to me are now taking weeks.

I don't want to blame the casinos, but if you win and cannot get paid in a fairly short time, someone should be at fault other than the processor.

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1 August 2016 - 12:58am
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Ugh, that's awful to hear. They really need to just regulate the damn thing already and let us have some decent options to get our money.

I'm almost to the point where it's Bitcoin or nothing for me for gambling because of that crap.

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1 August 2016 - 1:40am
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barbadosslim93 wrote:

Ugh, that's awful to hear. They really need to just regulate the damn thing already and let us have some decent options to get our money.

I'm almost to the point where it's Bitcoin or nothing for me for gambling because of that crap.

It's really unfortunate that we have to go through this.

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10 October 2016 - 9:20am
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Wow, there should be a small number of 3rd party processors, and now some are not taking two of winner's payment in a week.... It is very discouraging... Hope that it would get better for you.

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14 October 2016 - 6:58am
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I clicked on this thread to see why the US player wasn't using bitcoin... haha... newflorida, Looks like you will have to bite the bullet and start using Bitcoin, It isn't as messy as it seems, Once you get started.

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15 October 2016 - 4:08pm
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Damn I wish that I had the same problems.......lol my problems are not so much too many wins to get paid on them all but more along the lines of damn hlow can I win at all?

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17 October 2016 - 7:54pm
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I had the same problem where they could only issue me a check once a week. I have now figured out bitcoin and I cant seem to win anything!! Guess I will have to take a break or start hitting up actual land casinos again. Sucks bc its over an hour drive to the nearest casino.

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19 October 2016 - 7:44am
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What casino's were you playing at Mistree? I think online casinos offer far better RTP percentages than land casinos.

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20 October 2016 - 3:56pm
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Have you experience this with only one casino? I guess the problem is with the casino it self. They are taking longer time to process your withdrawals. I would recommend you to join casino that has bitcoin. Believe me it's much faster than any other payment processor on the internet.

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21 October 2016 - 6:28am
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I've been playing at lucky red, slotastic,slotocash, uptown, aladdins gold,casino extreme,ignition.

I actually sent an email to alladins gold about not winning anything. They checked my account and agreed that I wasn't having any luck and offered a promo code.

I think the odds might be different for American players. I managed to withdraw a 100 or so at casino extreme and since then have hit absolutely nothing. I deposited 500 there and played $1 to $2 bets and never had a substantial win. I spent it in less than an hour. With land casinos it seems that I can take $500 and play all day.

I'll probably keep trying but with small deposits this time. I was able to make two withdraws with ignition. It just seems like the first week I started playing I could win and since then nothing. Sure doesn't seem random.

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4 November 2016 - 1:02am
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As often as "they" say it is random, I have to agree! I used to win MUCH more often when I started playing, maybe three or four years ago, and now it is VERY rare.

When I win at Miami Club it takes a VERY long time to win again. And this is no matter what I do. Slot machines that were hitting do absolutely nothing. I don't even mind if I can play a while on my money, but that doesn't even seem to happen anymore. I used to be able to sign in and out for like a week and play to relax. Those days are gone.

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4 November 2016 - 2:11am
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At least I know it's not just me Smile I tried again since my last post and won NOTHING. I tried to play small bets large bets. Tried several different casinos and nothing. I spent I think $600 in two weeks.

I might make another deposit in a couple of weeks to see how it goes but I really am starting to think that the usa players odds of winning aren't random.

I'm used to the land based casinos and I have won some rather large jackpots and with online I haven't even hit a minor jackpot yet. I typically win when I go to the land based.. my problem with the land based is I will hit big and spend it all back or when I do hit and walk away I don't get to go back for awhile due to the long drive.

I was hoping with the online casinos I would be able to play more often but there seems to never be any large hits where I can continue to play or have the opportunity to cash out now. I just find it pretty unbelievable that I cashed out from almost every casino my first week and now every single casino I try is cold. I would think one would be running hot right?

I really hope I'm wrong and the past month has been a fluke bc I enjoy playing from my house and not dealing with the casino smoke so I'll see. I don't think they will ever regulate online gambling here but if the ones we are playing with don't have the same odds I sure hope they regulate it soon.

Sorry for the long rant Smile

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18 November 2016 - 9:38pm
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Getting tough here in South Africa aswell, I have a Netleller account and with it came a Net1 Master Card which was linked to the account and I would use it to withdraw my winnings instantly at any ATM here , Now Neteller has informed me that as of 25th November the card is is discontinued in SA and they will be stopping it, I can still use my Eco card which works the same way but I think it may happen to that E wallet too and if that happens then I guess all I am left with is Bitcoin casinos and linking a Prepaid Bitcoin debit card to Wallet
all very frustrating really Sad

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Yeah I got the same Neteller message. They are cutting off the card to everyone in a non SEPA zone (Europe) country.

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20 November 2016 - 8:54am
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Yeah I got the same Neteller message. They are cutting off the card to everyone in a non SEPA zone (Europe) country.

Something is going on in the industry and I don't know what or the cause of it. There is still only one payment processor for all of the casinos that I play at. In fact, a couple of weeks ago, there was none, forcing Jackpot Capital to tells US players that payment by check was not available.

With the neteller situation hitting players, I wonder why the industry has not been proactive politically. For example, If they had lobbyists in Washington representing them as a group, that law that was passed might not have.

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21 November 2016 - 12:18am
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I'm sure they tried but it's hard when you're an outsider coming in against established and deep-pocketed opposition like the land casino industry, along with the religious anti-gambling zealots. Don't forget also that the UIGEA law was a sneaky move as it was tacked on to an entirely unrelated port security bill that no-one was going to vote against in the climate of fear at the time.

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21 November 2016 - 1:28am
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I'm sure they tried but it's hard when you're an outsider coming in against established and deep-pocketed opposition like the land casino industry, along with the religious anti-gambling zealots. Don't forget also that the UIGEA law was a sneaky move as it was tacked on to an entirely unrelated port security bill that no-one was going to vote against in the climate of fear at the time.

I guess you are right. I am just venting. As for the religious zealots, they are hypocrites. They say one thing and when no one is watching they do the the opposite.

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21 November 2016 - 2:43pm
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Yeah I got the same Neteller message. They are cutting off the card to everyone in a non SEPA zone (Europe) country.

its a terrible situation, I have a passport for Greece and often go over there to visit family so they told me that if i can get a proof of residence for Greece then they will let me keep the card so I am going to give that a try, dont suppose you have any information on ecopayz possibly following the same terms at Neteller ?

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No sorry I have never used Ecopayz myself.

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This is precisely why bitcoin-based casinos exist. The casino I play at never gives me any issues at all, instant withdrawals, i've wagered at least $50k in the past 6 months and ive not been asked for so much as my ID let alone any other info. If you want instant payouts and anonymity, you will need to learn how to use bitcoin as using fiat currency casinos are only going to get stricter as time goes by due to KYC and all the other BS the gov uses to spy and steal from their citizens. How dare any organization tell me, a grown @ss man that I cannot use my own hard earned money (which I already pay income taxes on...) to gamble if he pleases. Theres a reason why 90% of the worlds gov dont care about such things, because they know its not even their right to make such choices for others. Plus, unlike the US, other countries actually have real issues they're working to fix, not telling a grown @ss man that he cannot gamble "bc its against the law". Against your law, maybe. But none of the citizens agreed to that garbage. Nor did we agree to spend OUR millions of dollars on building a larger wall at the border. But then again, Im just a person. Apparently lawmakers think they are Gods, when even God gives us the choice of free-will...

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I agree that the government should not be in the business of restricting people's ability to use their money to play at casinos.

Still, if a casino accepts US dollars, that casino should be able to pay you in US dollars. I don't want a casino to tell me that you can pay in US dollars but I can only pay you back in bitcoins. Whatever denomination they accept from a player, they should be able to pay that player using that denomination.

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30 January 2017 - 1:13am
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Man... That's too bad. Things are getting tough in this community...

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I agree that the government should not be in the business of restricting people's ability to use their money to play at casinos.

Still, if a casino accepts US dollars, that casino should be able to pay you in US dollars. I don't want a casino to tell me that you can pay in US dollars but I can only pay you back in bitcoins. Whatever denomination they accept from a player, they should be able to pay that player using that denomination.

Yes I agree with that, it's not right to be able to deposit in one currency and not be able to withdraw in the same currency, although you could sell your coins at Coinbase or Localbitcoins for USD and even above value so it could be a win/win situation Thumb Up

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