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9 September 2014 - 5:18am

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I would like to share a very disturbing case of casino conduct that we unfortunately have been involved in over the past 6 weeks or so. The casino in question is Grand Macao Casino, a Rival Gaming casino run by renowned slow payers, Netad Management. This group has form for paying players in instalments of as little as $500, paid fortnightly at best. Up until now, they have proven to be slow but reliable for their mainly American customers. Be warned that this is no longer the case.

Our player in this case was fortunate enough to win around $6500 from a $26 deposit. The extraordinary win came after the player claimed a bonus and completed all wagering requirements. None of this is disputed by the casino. The problem is, when it has come time to pay up, the casino has so far refused without explanation.

The nightmare began when the player received this email after submitting a withdrawal request:

Dear [name-removed],

I would like to inform you that as per our decision as Finance Department your last withdrawal request was denied and the requested funds were reimbursed to your playable balance as we are reviewing your account.

This process might take up to 90 business days.

As soon as we have any updates regarding your account we will inform you via email.

We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Sincerely,

Dan Hawke
Finance Department

90 business days? That must be a new record for the slowest casino finance department ever. No-one needs 90 business days, or 18 weeks in the real world assuming that they work 5 days a week, to verify a player's identity. No, we believe that the real reason for this unconscionably long time period was the casino's hope that the player would reverse their withdrawals and lose their winnings.

We advised the player to try to stay calm while we contacted the casino via their management to try to speed up the process. Unfortunately we were rebuffed from the start, being told by one person there that once the withdrawal is with finance, there is nothing they can do. A second person told us they would resolve this immediately. We never heard back.

Our initial suspicions were confirmed by the next email that the player received 2 weeks later:

Hi [name-removed]!

How are you today?
I called you today. It is Vanessa from Grand Macao casino.
So as I told you before we noticed strange activity on your account. I don’t want your winnings to be voided.
My work is to do my best for our players. That is why I have special offer for you. We can send you $500 and double up your balance to enjoy the games!
Just think about it!

Warm regards,
Vanessa VIP Manager

Aside from the gratuitous use of exclamation marks which we assume is supposed to make the player feel excited about being shafted, this is perhaps one of the most rogue emails we have ever seen from a casino support department.

First off, the claim of "strange activity on your account" is complete rubbish. The casino did not provide evidence or an explanation of any of this "strange activity", whatever that is supposed to mean. And as we know only too well after years of dealing with cases like this, if the casino had even the slightest shred of proof that the customer had broken a rule in any way, they would have banned the player and confiscated the winnings without hesitation. To date they have not done this. Instead all they came up with was this half-baked weasel-worded excuse not to pay.

Secondly, the intentions of the casino's "VIP Manager" are clear - bribe the player with an offer of a small $500 payment, then increase the player's remaining balance in an attempt to have them play again and lose it all. This is disgraceful conduct and the VIP Manager and her employer should be ashamed. Her claim that "My work is to do my best for our players" is patently false. The best thing for the player in this case would be to be paid what they are owed without fuss or delay. It is clear that the VIP Manager's role is to do the best she can to prevent players from withdrawing, to her employer's benefit.

So we are now at an impasse. The player has refused the ludicrous offer and asked to be paid in full. The casino has ceased responding to emails from the player, and they have also stopped responding to our efforts to mediate. The casinos are already poorly rated by us due to their slow payment policies, so we feel that the only course of action left to us is to blacklist Grand Macao casino, and all others owned and run by the same operator, Netad Management.

This is a full list of casinos run by Netad Management. We advise all players to avoid these casinos as we no longer have any confidence in the casino's management, ability, or willingness to pay its winners.

Begado Casino
Casino Titan
Golden Cherry Casino
Grand Macao Casino
Jackpot Grand Casino
Slots Jungle Casino
Slots of Fortune
WinPalace Casino

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29 May 2015 - 12:33pm
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Hello KIaha,

Our security department had to run an additional check of your account, and the found irregularities due to which your account was closed. Unfortunately I cannot reveal personal information on the forum, so please contact our security department for additional information.

Regards,
Anita

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29 May 2015 - 1:27pm
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Anita,

You an this Rogue Casino should be ashamed of yourself!!!, and knowing to full well that there
was no IRREGULARITIES WHAT SO EVER ON MY PART OR SIDE!!!, ANYTHING TO NOT
PAY OUT AND JUST MAKE UP PURE UTTER BS ON YOUR PART AND THIS ESTABLISHMENT!!
NO EFFECTIVE OVERSIGHT - TRANSPARENCY AND ALL THOSE TIMES I SENT IN
DOCUMENT AFTER DOCUMENT 6 TIMES!!!! AND MAKING UP CRAP ALONG THE WAY ON
THE PART OF ELI RICHARDS IF THAT IS EVEN HIS REAL NAME OR SOMEONE JUST WORKING
THERE AND USING AN ALIAS LIKE THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO YOU WORK WITH!!!
READING MORE COMPLAINTS AFTER COMPLAINTS - WAS READY FOR YOU TO BRING THIS
UP KNOWING YOU USED THIS TACTIC ALL TO WELL WITH PRIOR WINNERS WHO DID
WIN AND NOT WANTING TO PAY OUT WHAT SO EVER SO YOU BRING UP A SECURITY
DEPARTMENT !!! LAUGHABLE AT MOST!!!

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3 August 2015 - 6:54pm
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Hello
I am one more Begado Casino player who was not paid a 700 dollars win (adjusted for their bonus). I tried to fax a complaint to CIGA (Curacao Internet Gaming Association), but just realized that Netad Management Casinos is not their member. I wonder if there is someone who can mediate between Netad Management Casino and myself in resolving this issue. Please find attached my correspondence with Begado related to my account and winning, that proves that my account documentation was completed and confirmed by Begado and that my winning was also confirmed for payment that never happened.
Regards
Jelena Todorovic Clemente

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3 August 2015 - 10:27pm
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Sorry Jelena the short answer is they have been shut down and are out of business due to the criminal owners being arrested. No-one will be getting paid.
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