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19 May 2012 - 2:11am

US President's Position On Internet Gambling

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Back last year the US government had a deal on the White House website called "We The People", which allowed citizens to create a petition on an issue that the government would send to policy makes who would seriously consider sending it to Congress for bills to be made into law.

It was at this time that somebody actually had put up a petition to legalize online poker, and it had received several signatures (including mine).

Today I got a response from the website in my email, and was quite disappointed. It seems to me that the President's administrations DOES NOT understand online gambling at all and apparently did not study the issue in a serious matter, due to the statements contained in the response.

I have pasted the contents of the message below. What do you guys think of this stance by the President and his team?

Email contents start here:

"What We Have to Say About Online Poker

By Brian Deese, Deputy Director of the National Economic Council

Thank you for taking the time to participate in the "We the People" petition process. We launched this online tool as a way of hearing directly from you, and are pleased to see that it has been effective in soliciting your feedback. We understand your interest in the petition to support the legalization of online poker, and appreciate the opportunity to share President Obama's concerns about this issue.

The Administration understands that many Americans engage in paid online poker games for entertainment purposes. Online gambling on sporting events or contests violates federal law. The legality of other forms of online gambling is dependent upon the law of the states where the bettor or gambling business is located. It is left to each state to determine whether it wishes to permit such activity between its residents and an online poker business authorized by that state to accept such wagers, but online gambling that is not authorized by state law may also violate federal statutes.

The rapid and anonymous nature of the internet distinguishes online games from onsite games, such as those in casinos, and creates distinct challenges. For example, there are many means of technologically circumventing restrictions on online gambling that can allow individuals from countries where gambling is illegal -- or even minors -- to play using real currency. Online games also have greater potential for fraud because gambling websites are much cheaper and easier to establish than on-site locations, and like telemarketing scams, can appear and disappear overnight. Finally, online gambling can be used in money laundering schemes because of the volume, speed, anonymity, and international reach made possible by internet transactions. The Administration will continue to examine this issue and is open to solutions that would help guard against the use of online gambling sites as tools for conducting illegal activities or preying on unsuspecting individuals to the extent that online gambling is permitted.

Thank you once again for signing the online petition. We appreciate hearing your opinions and look forward to hearing from you again soon."

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21 May 2012 - 9:42pm
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I know that one of the main concerns of many people is minors playing online, but they can already do that if they want to bad enough. It won't change anything that drastically. Just another excuse, as far as I am concerned. These lawmakers need to somehow become better educated in these matters! Sad

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21 May 2012 - 10:50pm
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Exactly. If someone wants to circumvent the law, they WILL find a way. Other countries have steps to reduce these problems; why can't we learn from them and implement those rules to online gambling here.

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22 May 2012 - 6:05am
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The guy does make what appear to be some decent points but if you read more closely it doesn't seem like he can see the forest for the trees.

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The rapid and anonymous nature of the internet distinguishes online games from onsite games, such as those in casinos, and creates distinct challenges. For example, there are many means of technologically circumventing restrictions on online gambling that can allow individuals from countries where gambling is illegal -- or even minors -- to play using real currency.

And that would be why almost all online casinos go through identity verification procedures. Casinos don't want to be ripped off by players any more than the other way around. I'd be willing to bet that its easier for an under-age person to walk into a land based casino and play and leave undetected.

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Online games also have greater potential for fraud because gambling websites are much cheaper and easier to establish than on-site locations, and like telemarketing scams, can appear and disappear overnight.

Surely this is one of the biggest reasons why regulation is necessary and desirable? Wouldn't some sort of control prevent players from being exposed to the criminals he is talking about here? Look at places like Cool Cat Casino and its sister casinos - they have been ripping people off for years now, so the status quo clearly isn't protecting anyone from them.

What he has effectively said here is that people can get ripped off so we're not going to help protect people from getting ripped off. It is nonsensical.

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Finally, online gambling can be used in money laundering schemes because of the volume, speed, anonymity, and international reach made possible by internet transactions.

Again this can be mitigated by properly enforced identity verification procedures, which many online gambling sites already use.

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The Administration will continue to examine this issue and is open to solutions that would help guard against the use of online gambling sites as tools for conducting illegal activities or preying on unsuspecting individuals to the extent that online gambling is permitted.

They could start by drawing up a regulatory framework, establish some fitness of character tests for the owners of these potentially regulated sites, and start helping to protect their own citizens from being ripped off instead of continuing with the head in the sand mentality.

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4 June 2012 - 2:30am
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barbadosslim93 wrote:

The rapid and anonymous nature of the internet distinguishes online games from onsite games, such as those in casinos, and creates distinct challenges. For example, there are many means of technologically circumventing restrictions on online gambling that can allow individuals from countries where gambling is illegal -- or even minors -- to play using real currency.

Isn't it common sense, then, to counter those circumventions with equivalent technologies that would ensure minors or anyone not allowed to play in online casinos and sportsbooks? Here in Australia, online casino and sports betting is legal - for the players that is. Aussie-based operators may not be allowed under our law but players aren't restricted, provided that players are not underage - with reasonable proof of age, that is...

I seriously think that the status quo in the US over issues on online casino and sports betting is anchored more on paranoia more than balanced reasoning.

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4 June 2012 - 6:09am
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barbadosslim93 wrote:

Exactly. If someone wants to circumvent the law, they WILL find a way. Other countries have steps to reduce these problems; why can't we learn from them and implement those rules to online gambling here.

Well exactly this is not so difficult task that we cant do.. But for that we need a unity unfortunately that lacking now..

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