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20 November 2010 - 5:16pm

The Land of the Free? Ummm, Might Not Want to Tell a US Gambler That

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Hiya Members,

As any native from their homeland we love our country for which we reside. Being from the good old USA and being a gambler it certainly has it's down side. We are known as the land of the free, land of opportunity, yet we can't spend our hard earned dollars the way we want to and gambling on line.

And why can't we? Well the gov is like big brother don't ya know. They want to take care of us like we are all their children. It is to protect us and keep us out of harms way to get in too deep with gambling debt. There is just one thing i don't get in all that. How come there is no concern for us at land based casinos. Why only online.....well i think we all know the answer to that. For those that do know , then it blows away the whole "we want to protect you" theory now doesn't it?

So maybe they are lining all their ducks in a row for when the "BIG BAN" is lifted. They are cleaning house so that big brother can move in. Let us not forget these steps are necessary to "keep the American people out of harms way".

And if you believe that is the reason....i got some ocean front property out in the middle of the desert i need to sell, interested?

Don't get me wrong i love my country just as everyone loves their own and yes i am a proud American. I guess we don't live in a perfect world after all. The bells, whistles and cha-ching coming from out laptops is becoming a thing of the past.

Land of the free.........i think not.

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21 November 2010 - 3:51am
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In my opinion, I do not believe that the USA has laws against online gambling to protect the people but more to protect the land-based casinos and possibly other corporations in our country..

I am upset that I cannot play at many of the casinos at which I used to play. I am also angered that the USA does not allow me to spend my money where I choose.

I have not taken action in this regard, but you have inspired me to do so. I think I will write my congressman and join some groups which are working towards reversing these laws.

Thanks for the inspiration!

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21 November 2010 - 9:09am
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Both excellent posts. Rodaaf you have the exact right attitude. Complaining on the internet (haha!) will only get you so far - in the end you (meaning the people in general) have to tell your representatives what you want and hope they listen and act on it. In the end it may not be enough but it is the best you can do in the democracies that we live in, my country included. I mean we elect a bunch of people that basically get to do whatever they want for the next 3 or 4 years ... but don't get me started on that as its a massive philosophical can of worms!

Usne you are so right in pointing out the massive contradiction. Don't feel like you should have to tell everyone you love your country just because you criticise it. It is good to be critical if you want to make your home a better place. And you shouldn't feel defensive about it!

I find that the informal alliance between the Spencer Bachus-led "click your mouse and lose your house" alarmist brigade and the land based casinos looking to protect their turf has up until this point been a strange one. All I can say on that is that there may be a ray of hope - Harrahs (Caesars) has opened an online casinos for Europeans (although they did do it before in 2000), and so has WMS this month. I think we can say that the heads are finally out of the sand and the major players are ready for a change in the law. Its a matter of waiting and seeing - as usual money has gotten the U.S. into this situation and money will hopefully get it out once the politicians work out that the tax revenue from online gambling will be more than protecting the land casinos are worth.

I am not normally a conspiracy theorist but I am a little suspicious that this latest move with ewx could be a sign that the big players are looking to hurt the competition before entering the market. Unlikely but possible.

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21 November 2010 - 11:04am
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What I'm really dubious about is: if we all know and the officials all know, and the land casinos all know that the States will make online gambling legal in the future, and if everyone's also aware that everyone's gonna benefit from it, then why so much opposition right now? It's not for money laundering, that's for sure, because there are many more lucrative ways to go through with money laundering, and it cannot be for problem gambling, because gambling in land casinos is legal, and may incite gambling problems as much as any online casino.

So, in this particular case, I need to agree with Rodaaf, it's because some big players don't realize that they may make personal profit if the government lifts the ban.

Btw, great topic Usne (as usual)! Smile

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21 November 2010 - 5:34pm
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I agree with you Rodaaf that is the real reason! It all boils down to the Almighty dollar. And until the US and large corporations can get a piece of that Almighty dollar the ban will stay in effect. Thank you for your kind words of inspiration.

To quote ed - " Don't feel like you should have to tell everyone you love your country just because you criticise it. It is good to be critical if you want to make your home a better place. And you shouldn't feel defensive about it!"

I am sorry i came across as the Department of Defense. It was never my intent. I tend to post with a sensitivity to all who may read it. "The land of the free" is a very potent slogan for many that have brothers, sisters and fathers who fought for this very thing. It was in honor of them and to not miscontrue my appreciation. We expand to a global market and sometimes the only people that can stand up and voice an opinion on this level is the very people who reside in that country. Thus the gentle reminder that the person who voiced such an opinion is a American citizen that does not critisize her country as a whole.

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22 November 2010 - 1:14am
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Don't sweat it Usne. I tire of the "you're either with us or you're against us" mentality that has infested the U.S. government and politics (and mine too to a certain extent). You should never have to apologise or defend yourself for saying something sensible!

CatFace, don't underestimate the power of the fun police. There are still plenty of people who seem to think that it is their duty to stop other people doing what they want with their own money and time because it somehow offends them, or could lead to a problem in a minority of cases. And a lot of them are either politicians or have strong political support.

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22 November 2010 - 10:08am
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I absolutely agree with you Ed, and that's exactly why Usne's topic is so good - it shows that the land of the free is currently possessed by those who enjoy deciding for others, even if it comes to personal choices. Sad, sad times.... Sad

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22 November 2010 - 5:33pm
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I dont think Usne is being defensive Ed. After all if that was the case she would never make this post.

I think the reason for stating that she loves her country is coz of the other Americans who might of gotten defensive coz of her post. Not that theres a reason to get defensive at all.

Great post Usne

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