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22 September 2010 - 2:59pm

Question about systems

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i am new to this so please excuse this very basic question: i have been experimenting with a system that works well when i am in 'play for fun' mode on the casino site.What i dont know is if,when i switch to real money,the casinos computer will detect my system.Someone told me the numbers are ramdomly generated.Is this the case? i am using a well known english casino site. thanks

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22 September 2010 - 3:13pm
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First, if you are using a well known English casino site then I am confident that the game odds are the same in free play mode as real money mode. If we find a casino that does not have the same odds in free play mode then it is an instant blacklisting - see Gold Betting for example. And yes - the numbers or cards or spins should be randomly generated by an independently audited random number generator (RNG).

However I would advise caution before playing any system. Excluding skills such as card counting which do not work online, there is no known betting system that can beat the house edge on any casino game over the long run. Never forget this!

Many systems allow you to win in the short term, then bam you have one bad streak, hit a table limit, and are wiped out.

There are people however who are still willing to take this risk, and using a betting system can be a good way to put some discipline into your betting. Just don't go into it thinking it will be a sure fire way of making money every time. Sooner or later you will find that every system fails.

Also, never ever under any circumstances should you pay for a casino betting system. Ask yourself the question - if a genius invented a system that could beat the mathematical edge of a casino game, why on earth would they be selling it for $30 on the internet instead of cruising the Bahamas in their yacht that they bought with their winnings?

Does anybody else have a system they swear by? Do you think yours is a sure-fire winner? Ever been burnt by a system? Tell us about it - its a very interesting topic.

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23 September 2010 - 4:41am
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I would have to agree with you on this. Particularly with the slots. There is so many combinations with the RNG and no set pattern that it would be impossible to predict.

The only thing i find and this is just my personal experience...... Free chips whether they are comp points redeemed or loyalty chips never seem to pay off. I can't help but feel there is different settings on slots depending on depositing verse using free money.
If your playing with free money the machines seem much tighter than if you made a deposit. I also feel that depending on your wager determines how loose or tight a slot is.

I know we have discussed this before with the RNG and Ed said there is no relevance. I just find it ironic that almost without fail when i raise my wager thats when the machine dies.

Is it possible that there could be different settings on slots depending on your wager and whether the money is free or a deposit?

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24 September 2010 - 12:01am
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Nothing is impossible! But I am not aware of it happening with any of the major software manufacturers. Smashing players on a no deposit bonus would seem counterintuitive to me - if I owned a casino I would probably rather the player won a small amount first up as they would be more likely to return and deposit.

The one I am suspicious of is Rival - I've been told of a few players who get kicked back to the lobby after losing a bit on a high wager slot. When they load the slot back up again the bet limits have been reduced, making it harder for them to win back what they lost. Proving that this is deliberate is a very hard thing, but if it was me and that happened I would very quickly go play somewhere else.

They do set different payouts at the land casinos but funnily enough its usually the opposite - the higher wager machines have the better payout rates. The penny slots can be total milkers, just steadily draining the players' wallets.

I don't know if its the case with you Usne, but a lot of the time people who think the machines are killing them when they raise their bet size aren't taking into account that if you double your wager then you should really double your bankroll. If you start with say $50 and bet 50c a spin then if you hit a feature when you are down to your last $2 then you can still have a big win. But if you had started with that same $50 but bet $1 a spin instead you would have busted long ago. So with a larger bet size you only need to run into a smaller bad run before you bust.

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26 September 2010 - 7:18pm
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Thanks Ed for your reply. There is a lot of things that if we owned our own casino we would do differently. I couldn't agree more on being loose on a free chip and paying the player even for a small win. This helps to build up trust between the casino and the player.

Nothing is more sought after than a casino who has a good reputation as far as a player is concerned. Stand up and fly right and the casino will rein supreme against all the competition.

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