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22 July 2010 - 6:01pm

Gold Vip Club Not Paying Me!!!!!!

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I lost over $2,000 at Gold Vip Club and finally I won.

Now they are semi-refusing to pay me my money I won on slots. only giving me 1-2% per month of my winnings so take 5 years to be fully paid.

what is going on?I don't know??? there is no a business but a mafia. they claim to be based in British Virgin Islands but I saw on another forum they are based in Israel. anyone know?

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22 July 2010 - 11:57pm
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Hi julie, I am very sorry to tell you this but these guys are what is known as a rogue casino. They often refuse to pay winnings, have been known to double charge player's credit cards, send out heaps of spam and are generally very nasty people.

They are listed on our casino blacklist which you can click to via my signature just below this post, and we have a previous thread here:
Gold VIP Club Casino Fraud

How much did you win there? Their terms state that they will pay $2000 per 10 day period so if they are offering less than that perhaps you could remind them of what their own rules are. Though I do not have much hope that it will do you any good.

The company that runs the casino "Erpefa Trading Limited" claims to be registered in Cyprus. This is a common tactic used to make the casino appear legitimate and based in Europe. There is no other information on the site about who owns or runs the casino which is a huge red flag in my book. The suspicions that they are run by Israelis could be correct, given that their T&Cs mention that they only work Monday to Thursday (Israelis commonly don't work Fridays, although they often work Sundays).

Sorry I cannot be of any more help.

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17 August 2010 - 9:47am
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thanks for the reply.

i just want to know how they get away with fraud. i did my research and they are based in Israel. they hardly bother to cover their tracks because I found all over the internet Israeli guys with GoldvipClub in their Resume.

And all over Tel Aviv other forums say they have many online casinos. The only information i do not have to sue them is the name of their parent company. i just need that and good to go.

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17 August 2010 - 12:18pm
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They get away with it because the time and expense to recover a few thousand or hundred dollars from an unknown entity in another country is not worth pursuing legally. Plus they hide themselves behind a shell company in Cyprus, and try to hide all their contact details.

I don't know if this is a real address or not but this was printed on some spam emails they once sent out:

Erpefa Ltd
Agias fylaxeos 22-1
Limassos, 87554
Cyprus

Which other online casinos do you believe they own? I am fairly sure they ran another "skin" called Golden Gate Casino at one stage.

Another avenue you could try is RTG's dispute resolution service CDS, but to be honest they are not usually too helpful: http://www.centraldisputesystem.com/

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17 August 2010 - 8:13pm
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Thanks for the heads up about this rogue casino.

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18 August 2010 - 11:28am
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Yeah, it's amazing how many of those there are these days! Anyway, if you run into a casino you may want to play in, but you're not sure of their rating, go through some threads here (a helpful one may be: http://www.casinolistings.com/forum/discussion/online-casinos/7356/onlin...), and also, make sure you keep a close look at the list of rogue casinos which Ed keeps updating regularly. That should help you prevent any such unfortunate casino experiences as the one of juliestans.

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