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30 November 2009 - 11:20am

Looking for Online Blackjack Players

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As I have yet to find an online site where I can enjoy a session of blackjack, I thought to myself "why not ask?". If you play blackjack online regularly and have more fun fulfilled experiences than aggravation and frustration, I would love to know which site it is that you play with.. Moreover, if you have any insight, words of wisdom and or stories from your blackjack experience, please do tell.

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2 December 2009 - 12:40am
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I have made 5 figure profits over the years whoring blackjack bonuses. Unfortunately these days there are not so many good blackjack bonuses left. I have no doubt that the games are fair online ... at least my bank balance agrees!

My advice would differ depending on why you are playing. If it is to whore a bonus then stick to bets sizes no higher than 1-2% of your deposit and always follow the basic strategy - it really is the best and only way to play.

If its just a casual game where you don't have a bonus then of course be aware that there is house edge so play for short term gain and quit while you are ahead. Again always use basic strategy.

The best online blackjack to play: Betfair in the zero lounge (no house edge), Microgaming single deck classic, Cryptologic single deck. Other than that, vegas strip blackjack is usually reasonable, and atlantic city rules can be favourable because you can surrender.

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2 December 2009 - 12:44am
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I forgot to add - if you are playing live then avoid the scam that is 6:5 blackjack. The casinos often advertise it like "single deck blackjack where blackjack pays a whopping 6:5". The usual payout is 3:2, so you're being paid $6 on a $5 bet instead of the usual $7.50. This adds about 1.5% to the house edge.

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2 December 2009 - 12:54am
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yobes! thank you. Since I mainly play at a microgaming powered casino site, I will definitely give the single deck classic a shot. It's good to hear from a player rather than the casinos support team telling me it's fair.

btw are you still currently playing? or have you stopped due to the lack of blackjack bonuses?

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2 December 2009 - 10:30pm
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You are welcome. I still play now and then ... but its no longer my part-time occupation hehehe Wink The casinos have made the wagering requirements too high!

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3 December 2009 - 12:42am
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Thanks for the insight yobes. I have similar blackjack bonus bagging experience and I agree the good bonuses have pretty much dried up these days unless you are willing to go hard on the stickies.

cocacolakid, if you want to make sure you don't make any mistakes you can switch on autoplay on the microgaming software. It takes the fun factor out of it but at least you know you're playing the best game possible.

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3 December 2009 - 8:39am
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thanks CL-Ed - i'll see how the autoplay fairs and see if it makes a difference. I just find it ironic that I never can do well playing blackjack online (I get killed more like it) meanwhile I've seem to do well most of the time playing at a land-based casino. I've learned that one of the key weapons we have as players to beat the casino is the ability min. and max. our wages/bets. Whlie playing at a land-based casino I can tell whether or not its a shoe in favour of the player and would try to maximize the bet and doubling up whenever i can,. But online I can't tell...and perhaps its just a coincidence but the moment I raise, whatever winning streak I might have been on at the time..dissipitates and so do my chips.

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3 December 2009 - 10:10am
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cocakolakid wrote:

Whlie playing at a land-based casino I can tell whether or not its a shoe in favour of the player and would try to maximize the bet and doubling up whenever i can,.

Well if you're talking card counting then online its pretty much useless except for a miniscule edge in single deck games. Remember its effectively a new shoe on each deal at most online casinos. But land-based where they don't use continuous shuffle machines then yes you can count cards and vary your bets with the count.

Betfair's zero house edge game is interesting - in the very long run you should not lose anything playing it as long as you use perfect strategy. I wonder if they pay comp points on the zero edge games.... (off to check)

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3 December 2009 - 10:12am
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... and the answer is no comp points on any games played in Betfair's Zero Lounge.

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6 December 2009 - 4:20am
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What exactly does the casino do or change in the game that makes it a zero edge game?

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They change the rules or payout slightly to alter the odds. In the case of Betfair's blackjack, they pay 2:1 instead of 3:2 for a suited blackjack and they also pay 2:1 for a 5 card 21. Their zero roulette is simpler - they have no 0 on the wheel. Baccarat I think as well where you dont pay any commission and jacks or better with an adjusted pay table that works out at 100% payout with perfect play.

So how do they make money? Not everyone plays perfect blackjack or video poker. But I'd assume over the long run they would make very little money on the roulette or baccarat.

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15 December 2009 - 3:22am
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They change the rules or payout slightly to alter the odds. In the case of Betfair's blackjack, they pay 2:1 instead of 3:2 for a suited blackjack and they also pay 2:1 for a 5 card 21. Their zero roulette is simpler - they have no 0 on the wheel. Baccarat I think as well where you dont pay any commission and jacks or better with an adjusted pay table that works out at 100% payout with perfect play.

So how do they make money? Not everyone plays perfect blackjack or video poker. But I'd assume over the long run they would make very little money on the roulette or baccarat.

it could also be a marketing tactic to draw or attract more players to the casino - and with bonus tactics not including blackjack and various card games in the wager requirements they would make their money from players playing other games to meet the WR so that they can get on to the blackjack tables

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Oh yes, for sure. Betfair is all about the sports betting market - the casino is definitely just a sideshow that they use to attract more people to the brand.

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20 December 2009 - 4:46pm
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Thanks for the insight yobes. I have similar blackjack bonus bagging experience and I agree the good bonuses have pretty much dried up these days unless you are willing to go hard on the stickies.

cocacolakid, if you want to make sure you don't make any mistakes you can switch on autoplay on the microgaming software. It takes the fun factor out of it but at least you know you're playing the best game possible.

i can see how using the autoplay for online blackjack can help the player and i would agree following the same strategy that the auto play will help you win or at least better your chances at winning online - however and unfortunate as again without the shoe in play it is hard to determine what to wage or bet. i always believe the greatest weapon you have against the casino is being able to min. and max your bets and timing is everything. its hard to sense or feel the rhythm when there is no shoe - actually i would say there isn't any whereas in shoe, especially a good one, you can feel it when the cards are going your favour.

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