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2 January 2012 - 1:00pm

Are online casinos cheating you?

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We are going to start new service that will help players to check online casino honesty. We need your opinion.

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2 January 2012 - 11:14pm
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We are going to start new service that will help players to check online casino honesty. We need your opinion.

No offense, but I thought that is what we are doing right here, with all the great, honest reviews, support from admin and support from one another? What makes this new site different? Just honestly, sincerely wondering. Smile

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3 January 2012 - 12:36am
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No offense, but I thought that is what we are doing right here, with all the great, honest reviews, support from admin and support from one another? What makes this new site different? Just honestly, sincerely wondering. Smile

I was thinking the same thing. I pretty much like CL. I am still discovering new things and I have been here for many weeks.

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3 January 2012 - 12:58am
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While I am inclined to interpret this post as someone more likely trying to build up a mailing list on their 1 page website, I'll quote what it says on the website as it might provoke discussion.

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There are a lot of online casinos with numbers of different games: slots, poker, black jack, roulette... etc. Everything in these casinos depends on developers ( or owners ) honesty.

Are you sure that online black jack has 52 cards in desk? Are you sure that your odds in roulette with one zero are 1/37? How do slots work?

Somebody can says that there are a lot of casinos with certified soft. Are you sure that after receiving certificate they did not change code?

I consider that best way to control online casino is control by players. Each player must be able to collect information about games he played, store, analyse, share and discuss it. And we are going to develop such service.

That do you think about it?

Yes I believe that software that is independently certified by a known and contactable tester is fair. The tester has a reputation to uphold and could be sued to oblivion if found to be corrupt. Take a look at TST Global for example: http://www.tstglobal.com/

Casino games have a house edge. A reputable developer has no need to cheat because over the long run they will finish ahead. It is up to players, with a little help from sites like this, to judge whether or not the software developer is reputable.

I know for a fact that casinos using software such as Microgaming, Playtech, RTG, Net Entertainment or many others do not have the ability to change the random number generator or game code themselves. Therefore if you think one Playtech casino is cheating you by manipulating the odds for example, then you may as well think that they all are.

I also know for a fact that there are less well known softwares that are not audited, and some have even been caught cheating. I would not play games at these casinos. Here is one we talked about last year:
Cheating casino software: Casino Web Scripts

Another one was TopGame. They were caught out with wild symbols missing on one or two slot machines, making it impossible to win the jackpot.
Rome Casino and the case of the missing wild symbols

So yes, cheating can and does happen. It seems to be less well known and competent developers out to make a quick buck. But the remarkable thing is that the cheats seem to get caught because players and the online gambling community are not stupid.

Players can collect information about the games they play and the results. Most online casinos keep a record of your bets, deals, spins etc and you can access them if you like. There are always people who believe they have been cheated when they have a loss. In the vast majority of cases they are simply wrong. But my advice is always that if you feel that you have been cheated, just don't play there any more. There are hundreds of reputable casinos to choose from (assuming you're not American of course).

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19 February 2012 - 1:35pm
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Bovada! This casino sucks I have played several hundreds dollars in the last few days on witches and wizards, and dragons and on several different occasions I have won 10 free spins and it locks up when I try to use them. I have contacted customer service on several different occasions and they have done nothing to help so it is very apparent that customer service isn't a priority to them. I never had any problems when this was bodog and was wondering if anybody else has had any of the same issues. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated on sny similar situations and how they handled it, Thanks.

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Hi mpkgrading, and welcome to Casino LIstings! I believe that the same company operates Bovada, which was once branded as Bodog. The only real difference is that Bodog's licensing agreement expired and they changed the name.

They still use everything the same as before, which leads me to believe it is likely a glitch.

What exactly have the customer service folks said to you?

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