William Hill Blacklisted?

Yes indeed, that one is a bit of a weird situation. About two years ago now, William Hill merged their online operations with a group of casinos that had a very poor reputation for being dodgy, owned by a company known as Cpays or Webroute Services, and these days known as Affiliates United. Before William Hill came along they had their fingers in a lot of bad pies - hardcore spamming campaigns, blackhat SEO, ripping off players and webmasters etc.

The worst was when a woman won a $4.1+ million jackpot at Joyland casino and they wouldn't pay it to her. They tried to tell her she would be paid $9000 a month which worked out to be almost 40 years, and when she refused they ended up trying to put part of the money in her account as a bonus and make her play through it. In the end she was paid around $2 million in one go and they flat out refused to pay the rest. The thing is it was a Playtech network progressive so Playtech paid the full amount to the casino, but the casino did not pass it all on to the player and the rest just "disappeared". Teddy Sagi, who is the founder and major shareholder in Playtech and who once served jail time for stock manipulation and fraud, was the owner of this group of casinos at the time. You'll have to draw your own conclusion about what happened to the money.

More info here in these stories:
Joyland jackpot win turns into nightmare
Predatory Joyland Casino progressive jackpot update

To this day, Joyland Casino still has the gall to put this woman's win at the top of their "winners" page.

In the merger, William Hill basically acquired the casinos, outsourced to the same people in control of these dodgy casinos and then held their hands up and said all those past debts and obligations have nothing to do with us. So they are blacklisted for moral reasons I guess. I used to play there myself a few years back when they used Cryptologic software before they got into bed with the crooks, and I never had any problems. As we say on our rogue casinos page, your chances of being ripped off by William Hill itself are low due to the name recognition if nothing else, but I would not go near any other casino in that group, even with someone else's money.

Yes we try our best to keep people informed! But you are right, at some point its up to people to do their research before they play. And really, the large majority of people are not going to win €4 million so they will never have that problem.

I don't think that people are really in danger by playing at William Hill these days (their other casinos, maybe). But I also don't believe their past behaviour should be forgotten or swept under the carpet.

There are other reasons too. Behind the scenes we have received emails with thinly disguised threats against us from people working for WIlliam Hill. We were told "it would be better for our site" if there were no reviews of their casinos instead of a bunch of bad reviews. I believe that statement was deliberately vague so it can be interpreted in many ways.

Also a few times we have caught people working for them spamming the forums here with links to William Hill websites. When we decided enough was enough and emailed them to complain they outright denied it, even when we provided proof. What are the odds that some random internet surfer is going to post links back to William Hill sites using keywords like "casino" and "bingo" on related forums? Anyway the last email I received from them regarding the spamming said this:

Quote:

I am going to discuss this with the SEO department now and send you an official answer. If you don’t hear anything more from me it will be because I found you to be correct and I will be hanging my head in shame.

It was July 5, and we never heard back. That says all we need to know.

i,ve played at william hill and have dove very well , i found no problems they paid out quickly with no fuss

carpmite wrote:

i,ve played at william hill and have dove very well , i found no problems they paid out quickly with no fuss

same here... had big withdrawal last time without any problem. support is still good. thats the important things for me. still playing there 🙂

btw. sportsbetting they ve limited my account... this sucks

Hi GambleMaster, I think WilliamHill doesnt like surebetter and value players 🙂 Six bets and my account has been limited *whooooooo*

William Hill's online casino has lost a lot of its reputation over the past 2 years. Ever since they affiliated themselves with lower quality online casino, their services and reliability have drastically downgraded.

yeah, I had a big withdrawal. 😂 without problems, get the money within 36 hours

everyone has their own opinion, but FOR ME WilliamHill ist still a good bookie and onine casino. 😉

GambleMaster wrote:

All I can do is to recommend you to do the same .

Sure, now I am forced to visit other sites anyway, because they ve limited my account to 50 Cent a bet 😂 I ve no more reasons to play there.
I would not recommend WH but I wouldnt advise against WH too. For me, it s a good website. Nothing more and nothing less.

regards,
n0sferatu

Hmm.. fortunately I have not played in William Hill for a long time, but still it is surprising that we see this giant online casino blacklisted...

I used to play there back in the Cryptologic days. Used to have some fun tournaments and regular bonuses but this was years ago. Haven't been back since the software switch.

It looks like William Hill has been blacklisted by its own employees!
Employees Walk Out Of William Hill

With their jobs in jeopardy that WIlliam Hill will move operations to UK or Gibraltar you really can't blame them for walking out. But will it help their cause to hold on to their jobs? I don't think so. I think William Hill will try to put a temporary band-aid on the situation until they set up operation somewhere else.

Offering them a week's salary to stay won't offer them job security. At best they are just creating hardships for the company and getting even when they are out in the street jobless. But i do give them two thumbs up for taking a stance!

It might sound harsh for the poor guys losing their jobs, but a complete clean-out of the management there and relocation to the UK or Gibraltar would actually improve William Hill in my eyes. They made a major mistake in taking over a bunch of rogue casinos and then letting the same people who had been running them continue to do so.

I am sure that kind of move will be beneficial for the corporate world. But for the "little" people of the world that are struggling to make a living i get it.

It is definitely a corporate world and we are just living in it!

This just gets better and better. Or worse I guess, depending on your point of view.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/884718...

My personal favourite part:

Quote:

Mr Topping became suspicious when the Tel Aviv office refused to comply with an internal audit instigated by head office and denied the bookie access to its computer systems.

After hiring ex-Israeli intelligence officers to go through the systems, the bookie claims to have found plans for a rival business and that a rabbi, fish feeder and hairdresser were on the books.

Mr Topping is also known to be livid over an alleged string of payments from the Tel Aviv business for table-tennis coaching for managers.

I know its a bit smug to say "I told you so" but ... I told you so! 😂

These guys running William Hill's online operations are completely shonky and have been for years, even before WH acquired them and handed over their business to run. I still cannot believe that a company of the stature of William Hill got into bed with crooks like this.

This is hilarious. Sounds like the tail is wagging the dog over at WH

Hi all especially CL, I'm new here and a novice online gambler. I'm glad I found your website CL because I was intending to play at William Hill (vegas roulette) untill I read yours and others comments re William Hill.

I only play roulette and I only play dozen progressive bets, so far I'm thinking of playing at Betvoyage, Ladbrokes, Virgin and Mr Green casinos because of their 10p minimum dozen bets.

Welcome enzed, I take it you're a kiwi!

From memory I think Betfred also has 10p roulette, though I am not sure if they allow 10p on the dozens. Ladbrokes, Virgin Casino and Mr Green are all good reliable casinos. Betvoyager are a bit of an unknown quantity.